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Rick You Dunderhead

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hak34, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. Super Von

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    Ultimate player's coach.

    Translation: He'll let you do whatever the hell you want, never give you any lip about it, and doesnt care if you play defense.
     
  2. MIAGI99

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    Adelman's got to mix up the offense. This is the same problem since Van Gundy was here. The Yao screen at the top of the key then post on the elbow that is the same play they run and every team knows it. I thought Adelman was the offensive genius? He needs to mix up the play calling and spread the ball more.
     
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    Nah, I don't know about everyone else but i've been consistent that Yao wasn't getting the ball enough.
     
  5. TMac4Life#1

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    didnt they do that with JVG??? :( :( Yao went down and if im not mistaken we have had 50+ win season for the past 3 years. 4 if you add this year which seems very likely
     
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    Not to mention how you exaggerate, but you didn't mention the positive aspects of a player's coach.


    With your way of saying things, I could say...


    Ultimate disciplinary coach.

    Translation: He'll not let you do whatever the hell you want, if you don't, you will be in his dog house, and doesn't care about developing future.
     
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    1. Jeff didn't have to go with rotation problems. Rick had to deal at least 10-15 games where he had NO clue if Ron or Tracy was playing. Jeff said it himself (in an interview with 610, I think) that it would be impossible to set up a defensive plan with that in mind.

    2. Whenever Tracy went out, we are usually horrible. Of course, now that we have Ron Artest, it helps a lot, but... Ron Artest is no Tracy. To even reach the same amount of wins the year Yao went out with Jeff... is amazing.
     
  8. TMac4Life#1

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    That only right there should tell you how great the coach is with less and imagine what he can do with more. Just like McGrady. It shows you what the guy is capable of doing with less talent and what he is capable of doing with more. It's amazing what those 2 did without Yao and a horrible supporting cast compared to the one the Rockets have now.
     
  9. Pringles

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    Well, I can give you some more reasons to support Rick.

    The wins were similar when Jeff and Rick both lost Yao. Now you bring up a great point in saying that the Rockets had a better supporting cast with Rick.

    But...

    Rick, from looking at the past with him and Jeff, is a great coach in terms of developing players. Apparently, when he had that one year off, he watched Oregon a lot. He was a big fan of Brooks; Brooks turns out to be a steal in the last 1st round. Landry was chosen by Morey, or it looks like. But after the summer league, Morey was VERY disappointed in Landry. He might not even had made the 15 man roster! But after some games, Rick played him and it turned out to be great.

    Jeff never used a young or new player to blossom into his own. He forced them to the system. Luther Head, who is VERY athletic, never showed his athletic ability. Vassilis Spanolous was forced into a shooter; he complained about it.

    We were also around a 10 games winning streak. Our hopes were high, and then all of a sudden Yao is out. I applaud Rick to find a way to make the streak CONTINUE on to 22!
     
  10. TMac4Life#1

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    I support RA. I by no means dislike him. I just found it strange that the Rockets would fire him. I understand its a business and it goes down to what have you done for us lately but The Rockets really never tried to add talent the way they are doing with Rick Aldeman. I understand Morey wasn't our GM at the time and it was CD but come on. What is a washed up Juwan Howard, unproven Reece Gaines ( wonder what happened to him ), one year wonder Mike James going to do for the Rockets. V-Span was bragging but I kind of agree with what Jeff did. We had Sura who was playing great. Wesley was alright from time to time and Mike James well had that really one good year with us. Where would V-Span see playing time. I understand Jeff's whole philosophy of being a veteran's coach and playing his veteran guys but when he does that he is one hell of a coach.

    BTW I think we were on a 12 game or 13 game winning streak before Yao went out. Then it turned into a 22 game winning streak. :)
     
  11. Pringles

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    I believe Rick and Jeff are both outstanding coaches. Both with different flaws. It is amazing that both of them have a good track record (with Rick having a bit more sample size, but that just shows you how much older he is). Both have reached the Finals. I just think whether or not Jeff was the right coach for us, we should not fire away a great coach like Rick.
     
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    Rockets just do not have hope under Rick coaching. Because rox target is not pass first round, but beat elite teams like LA, SA. Done this year.
     
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    You are exactly right. There is a Confucius saying from 2000 years ago
     
  14. Pringles

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    Hope of beating elite teams were gone, when our 22 million dollar player went out. Whether we had Rick (who is a great coach), Phil Jackson, Poppovich, Jeff Van Gundy, or whoever.
     
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    You are exactly right. There is a Confucius saying from 2000 years ago: "Teach according to the student's aptitude."
    Not the other way around. Not the other way around. I think Phil Jackson would understand this perfectly well.
     
  16. Pringles

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    With that saying, Jeff was a horrible choice for this team too.
     

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