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Rick You Dunderhead

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hak34, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. RV6

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    They need to let him touch the ball at least, if it's not in the post, spot him up from 10 feet, he's a threat there too, but he needs to touch it to keep the D honest and possibly get open looks for others.
     
  2. daddy cool

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    The problem is Yao doesn't have that palyer who can balance his game. He needs a point guard who can kncok down shots,Who can take guys to the rack,Who can make post entry passes.


    Yao get's a player at the 1 who can do it all this would open his game up. Those guys fronting Yao would have to help. Yao would be 10 times more effective.




    Yao needs that other guy to compliment his game
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    These are not bad moves at all and I agree.

    Adelman as I have said for many times is a great coach. One of the best but his offense isn't the best for our best player. So the management either gets rid of the best player for the Coach...or gets rid of the coach.

    I love Yao and want him to stay.
     
  4. durvasa

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    The Lakers defensive strategy is to load up on the strong side. That gives the Rockets problems when they want to post up Yao Ming, because the Lakers put extra pressure on the perimeter ball-handlers on the strong side. They did a good job using a combination of fronting defenses, and sending help towards Yao to take away his aggressiveness. The way to counter that defense is to move the ball from side to side and force the Lakers to rotate. That's what the Rockets were trying to do -- get more ball movement. One of the ways the Rockets do that is the run a double high post set and get some extra pick and roll action. Then they can use some misdirection to get Yao, hopefully, a deeper look at the basket.

    I think that's what the Rockets were going for. But they just don't have the necessary passing skills and overall offensive talent to execute like they need to against good teams. It's disheartening how bad their offense can look against shaky defensive teams like that the Jazz and the Suns.
     
  5. UTAllTheWay

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    I completely agree with that... which is why you can't really say this is Rick's fault.
     
  6. Lonestar

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    Good job, Coach of the month

    http://www.nba.com/games/20090403/HOULAL/boxscore.html

    Yao played 39.32 mins, the longest min among all players of this game, and he played just 2 spans of the game

    If yao was not tired, Coach of the month would play him to the last second :cool:

    Good job, Coach of the month. Congrats, btw
     
  7. emcsquared

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    I have the feeling that Yao will opt out if RA stays.


     
  8. RV6

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    Wally is a FA this summer, he'd be a solid pickup if he takes a cheap deal..
     
  9. RV6

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    If Adelman is still here by then and we havent progressed, I guarantee the Rockets will fire Adelman, even if Yao seems content, they'll fire Adelman just to show Yao they're trying everything to win.
     
  10. magicwind

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    Rick Adelman is an moron, period.
     
  11. Lonestar

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    How expensive is RA? 5 m a year?
     
  12. Nick

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    The OP made a great post, and pretty much hit the nail on the head.

    I am always rooting for what is best for the team... but something tells me that this team would have a completely different identity (and level of confidence), if they knew Yao was a 25 and 10 guy.

    The problem is, we got a chicken and the egg scenario. Yao has the physical capability to be that guy. He's proven that. When the system revolved around him (especially in the T-mac back injury year), Yao found himself starting to dominate games. That in and of itself was half the battle... as before that, I don't think Yao really believed he could dominate games. Once he started doing it... he continued to do it... and once he believed he could do it, he was pretty much unguardable.

    Now, the game plan no longer revolves around Yao. At first, everybody thought that may be a good thing... keep down the wear and tear, extend his career, and make him more versatile with his passing. What it did, however, was take Yao away from a position to dominate the game night in and night out. Once that stopped, Yao's new-found confidence likely faded away... as did the trust of his teammates.... and now we have a guy who can only be successful if the gameplan/matchup fits perfectly.

    Its a problem when this team's coach and his teammates don't feel the need to milk Yao for all he's worth. We know Rick isn't a low post coach. We also know that Artest cares very much about the kind of numbers he puts up.

    Its a recipe for disaster... teams don't fear us, they don't fear Yao, and Yao is simply trying to fit in. Just awful.
     
  13. emcsquared

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    I am so suprised that some people are still defending this idiot. I was praying for a double tech on RA early in the 4th so the assistant coach can step up. But it did not happen. The pig just sit there doing nothing.

     
  14. Nick

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    Who was that guy when Yao was making defenses look silly the year T-mac was out with a back injury? David Wesley?

    Yao is a low-post big man with game. HE is the guy that can make people better, not the other way around.
     
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    Against the Suns, Adelman took Yao out for a while at the beginning of the 4th, and the Rockets offense went down the toilet with Deke and subsequently Hayes on the floor. I think Adelman remembered that, and he felt that he needed Yao on the floor so the Rockets don't give up any offense.

    We've heard it over and over how much better this team is without Tracy. Well, this is one of those things you have to live with without that second player who can carry the offense. Yao playing long stretches without rest.
     
  16. Nick

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    Also, Yao is much more valuable on both ends of the court when he's actively INVOLVED in the offense. This has been proven time and time again... he plays better defense, gets more rebounds, and (of course) starts to demand the ball.
     
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    Well. Does this justify the way RA used Yao tonight?

     
  18. Nick

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    Nope. This is the same pattern he used the last game against the Lakers. Kept Yao in till Yao was dead tired... both halves.

    Maybe he should have learned from THAT game. Or maybe he should be like most elite coahces and actually develop a substitution pattern for his best player.... let alone a guy who shouldn't be playing tons of minutes due to his STRESS fracture last year. Let alone a guy we all know is more effective in small spurts than extended minutes.

    But yeah... go ahead and defend a guy who has no clue how to use Yao.
     
  19. YallMean

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    While I didn't like Yao played that long, but Yao was on the court 2nd half when Gasol was on. We couldn't pull him out even when Gasol was out, because we were down by close to 10 pts at that point.
    Yao is our only stud right now, we can't hang with LA without him. I don't blame RA for leaving Yao on and not giving up the game. If he did that and we were blown out which I believe would be the case, more biatching would be sure on the way.

    Bottom line LA is better, and RA didn't submit until Yao played 40 min on the court.
     
  20. RV6

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    Rafer or Ron? Ron is about 8.5 mil, Rafer is 5 this yr, 5.2 next yr.....

    Wally is making 13 mil this year off of an old deal, there's no way he get close to that next yr, we should offer the minimum.

    We also need to look into how much Kidd will take, we're not a long move away and he wants a ring, so who knows..Andre Miller is also a FA..

    Matt Barnes and Ghill as well, might be worth looking into..
     

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