Rick sends Von to the locker room (UPDATE: Adelman says issue settled)

Man, what is it with rockets fans they just turn on a guy and team at times in a second. Listen, the guy is young and he probably was caught up in the moment which for a young guy in a high intensity playoff game can shift his focus. He'll be all right after the vets get on him. I still like him and what he brings to the table. We are going to need him in game three.

 

Fire Rick Adelman, and place Von Wafer as head coach? Is that what you're suggesting, Von knows what he's doing more than Rick?

Are you mental?

 

I fully agree with my man BMoney on this one.

My take is that I'm pretty sure Wafer will make a public apology and patch things up with Rick and the team will put this behind them asap. The team needs Von's scoring and Von needs the Rockets.

 

It should be kept in house. Both Adelman & Von shouldn't talk about it.

 

I don't want to comment on who was right or wrong. Hard to say because we don't know what was said.

But I wonder how bad is it. Will Wafer play and this probably makes sure that he won't be here next year.

Remember the last game of Bdiddy as a warrior he got into a fight with the coach...then left in FA.

 

A_3PO's comments have real good in this thread. Nice to see a cool head.

 

But inquiring minds want to know.

 

I gave you my "the only reason" why it would have been acceptable for RA to send him to the locker room. If that was the case, then I don't consider it bonehead. Anything else to me and it was bonehead. That's my opinion.

It's obvious with something like this that Von ain't happy. What would make him want to sign again if Tmac comes back? What would make the Rockets want to sign him again if he doesn't get along with the coach?

Many people already thought we might lose Von anyway..all I'm saying is that with an incident like this, the % that he will be back just dropped to about 10%. Of course if we get more details, that could change.

 

Really, coach is the commander on the court.

You don't disobey coach's decision.
Von maybe good at offense, but he's not really consistent and horrible on defense.

If you can't listen to the coach, especially a good coach like Rick, you don't deserve a re-sign.

I hope this will be taken care of by Morey.

 

I think the Rockets are keeping James White for a reason.

 

Look, I'm the biggest Tracy McGrady apologist on the face of this forum.
And I play a mean tuba.

Leave McGrady out of this for a minute. First, McGrady isn't here. He's going to get his no matter what happens in this series. I know it's strange not having him him to beat on, but we've got to get used to that sooner or later.

We don't know exactly WHAT went on with Von Wafer and Rick Adelman. Except that Adelman reminded everybody that he's carrying the biggest stick in the yard. And he ain't afraid to club you over the head with it.

No matter how much of a player's coach he is.

Second, Wafer's had a good season here for us, but that's because he really had no competition for a roster spot. I know all about him beating out D J Strawberry and how nobody though he'd make the team and all that.

But we haven't had any decent wing players on this team for so long that Von Wafer or just about anybody else could get on this team and make an impact. Just like Luis Scola and Carl Landry improved the team at the four-spot just by showing up.

I don't have any problem with what Adelman did. He's going to go with what he has and who he can count on. He gets to decide when somebody's insubordinate and when somebody's just venting.

Like somebody said here somewhere earlier. Sometimes, it IS about looking good in a loss as much as looking good in a win. Can't understate how important it is to have a TEAM this time of year.

Can't let anything or ANYBODY come between that.

And, for the record, I was critical of Adelman taking nearly half the season of McGrady's in-and-out status. He gave McGrady a lot longer leash because he trusted McGrady and wanted to give him a chance. The team was able to gel because that uncertainty about a guy they'd need if he was in uniform was answered, and they could rally around each other. That's why he lets Ron Artest get...(I can't believe I'm going to type this)...Artesty. He'll take the good with the bad if he can manage it and not hurt the team.

Whatever happened, Wafer hurt the team. Doesn't matter if it was malicious or hotheaded. Doesn't matter who started it or who was right.

I like McGrady. But he was hurting the team trying to play with an injury.
I like Wafer. But he should shut his mouth and play the way his coach asks him to.

Rick Adelman's doing the job. And a pretty good one, too...

 

Yeah Von doesn't have to worry other teams will want him and pay him next year where he will be starting most likely.

 

I guess there is a reason why you and other responders to my post don't quote the whole post. You have to intentionally cut out the rest of my post when you hit the reply button.

That is because you don't want to see the logic in the rest of my response. You are responding only from an emotional point of view of defending RA, and you probably didn't like Von before this incident anyway.

 

Very good post and points. Which is why I said that UNLESS Von was threatening or cursing RA out in a very abusing way, I don't agree that he should have been sent to the locker room. It just brings to much distraction to the whole team and the goal is bigger than sending a message to Von Wafer.

If he didn't do that, but was really out of line, RA could have just made him given him a team suspension for the next game. That is what coaches normally do. Not send a player to the locker room on national tv. That is fodder and a big time team distraction.

So I stand by what I said, unless Von was threatening or just down right cursing RA out and calling him a "pu**y" or something, I think RA should have shown his maturity and disciplined Von after the game.

Hopefully we will get to find out what really was said and happened. But I got a feeling that they will try to cover this up. Hopefully somewhere the video of this will show up to tell the truth of who was really over reacting.

 

If Von "I can't stay with a team for more than 12 weeks" Wafer is really going to make this an issue with an NBA coach who has 600 wins then he is bound to fail. He's just not good enough. Having said that, let's get some more facts before we crucify him T-Mac style.

 

Why is everyone assuming that now all of a sudden Von is done? I mean yeah I know what happened but we don't know what will happen from now until game 3. Issues can be resolved people, this is a game of men.

 

Von do need more mins.But we doesn't have too much room for him learning through the game .

he is very ambitious.I thnks he probably won't sign with us next season.

 

Dear Von: Shut your mouth and know your role.

I hope he apologized to Rick and all's good by Game 3. He will be forgiven and come up big the rest of the series.

 

so who escorted von out? I'm guessing security or an usher? I dont think a big deal should be made about that, it was probably more for von's secuirty rather than to keep Von in line..

 

My guess is this isn't the first incident between Von Wafer and Adelman.