[Rick Reily] Someone Stop This Man (Yates' Greg Wise)

Great post to all who has never went an seen this team play please do so i think you will have a change of mind they just play hard.

 

What in the hell does that have to do with pressing when you are up by 80?

That's my whole point, and you keep conveniently avoiding that point

I hope Yates finishes undefeated...I'm genuinely happy for those kids.

That doesn't excuse the poor sportsmanship and your reasoning, and hilltoppers, doesn't validate what they did. There is a difference between playing hard and pressing. Sorry

 

Me too.

 

Dude, I answered your point like 3 times.* You just don't like the answer.
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Why press when you are up 80?
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1) The press is what your entire system (offense and defense) is based on.* Please don't say "practice something else" because pressing is what has led to dominance.* No one asked the Bulls to practice something else besides the triangle.
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2) Continuing to press get's your team ready for when they play legit teams and actually do have to press the entire game.* I am speaking more from a physical standpoint.* Last year Yates did not blitz through the state tournament.* They lost the year before.* When they played other top teams in out of state tournaments, they didn't blitz through those games either.* The regular season gets you ready for the playoffs.* It is not to Yates advantage to slack off during the regular season (because they are in a poor division) and not be in top condition when it's time to press the entire game.* Do you think that's a wise thing to do?* It's hard to get a full team to a level where they can just go for the entire game.* In the case of someone getting in foul trouble or injured, the replacement player needs to be up to speed and ready to go.
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3) It's not fair to your bench players to have them bust their balls all summer and year so they can play within your system, just to tell them not to do it when the game get's here because the other team is bad.* Sorry, but that's just dumb.* My first question to you is "Coach, why am I running all these sprints and drills when I will rarely get to do any of this stuff until we play a tough team".* This makes sense to you?
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No, I don't believe in penalizing my kids in order to be a good sport, simply because you have less talent.* My kids want to play when they get a chance.* They want to try to get scholarships as well, or maximize their eligibility.* I would not want my child to bust his balls, get in the game and hold the ball....in the name of being a good sport.* At that point, what is the purpose of playing?* My team really isn't playing.

 

and how do the timeouts fit into your logic?

 

Calling a timeout to continue to score or set a record is lame. How many times did this occur?

Having your bench run your system and play hard all game is not.

 

people love winners and hate bullies. I like how IceHouse earlier contended this has something to do with their inner city status. It is sad what has happened to HISD schools due to urban flight, unfortunately Yates has cleaned up on a lot of these other depleted inner city schools

 

Here is my question, to those that have seen these games.

How would you classify the behavior of the Yates athletes, aside from the basketball aspect? Specifically, how do they act after whistles, makes, misses, steals, on the sidelines? Surely, there is a difference in winning as big as possible with a chip on your shoulder and winning as big as possible with a focus on limiting mockery of the opponent themselves. Or is the latter not even a possibility in today's climate? I realize this is where people say "It is not possible because he is pressing/fouling." I am asking about the peripheral behavior aside from those decisions.

Is Coach Yates literally, personally "winning with class" himself through his behavior during these beatdowns by acting with composure, restraint? Or does he act as childish as some want to imply?

I haven't seen Houston HS bball in years unfortunately. I am genuinely, not rhetorically, asking.

 

Abolish pubic schools, problem solved.

 

LMAO.

Oh man, epic trolling.

 

As was mentioned earlier, Westbury was intentionally stalling the game even when down by 30. We can't know what the coach was thinking, but I'm willing to bet he was bitter and didn't want Yates to reach 100.

 

Stalling is a tried and true tatic when going up against a running team. fouling to get the ball back up by thirty is not

 

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It's just funny to me that you think he's not a good coach. Especially considering two of the teams he has been associated with (coaching Yates, and his son going to Kingwood) have both won state championships. Not to mention the loads of kids he has helped improve in the AAU circuit. It seems like some of you have no idea what's going on with the Houston hoops scene. You guys realize that basically the reason why Houston has become such a basketball hotspot is because of mainly three guys: John Lucas, Hal Pastner, and Greg Wise.

If you want to call him out for being egotistical that's fine. But to say he isn't a good basketball coach is just ridiculous...

 

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So, why did the same types of thing happen when Wilt Chamberlain was setting records back in the day??

 

are you really comparing pros to hs?

 

People are fascinated with winners until they win too much. Then we hate them.

 

This is a stupid argument. I understand your loyalty and that's cool, but to act like you guys don't understand why people frown on this are act like people are just hating is plain silly.

defend your team, but don't insult our intelligence

 

Sorry, what? They got blown out. How was their tried and true "tatic" going to help them win? Hint: It wasn't. The coach conceded the game and sought victory in holding Yates below 100, which he accomplished.

 

yes the coach is trying to stop the other team from scoring, that's what happens when you are getting your ass handed to you. do you think winning was a realistic option, so instead he should just continue the game plan that's only going to allow Yates to run the score up.

sorry what?

 

also, the stalling is a fine example of what people are talking about as an opportunity to teach instead of acting like a douchebag. there is a tatic to prevent stalling in H.S. you press the man he can't just hold the ball and you try to force a turnover. it requires paitience and dicpline. but instead they had their mind on the record