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[Rick Reily] Someone Stop This Man (Yates' Greg Wise)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ryan17wagner, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. leroy

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    Not that I disagree with you, but do you seriously think that a runner trying to run as fast as possible or a pitcher trying to not let the other team get a hit is the same thing?
     
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    Yeah not working for me either.
     
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  4. Icehouse

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    Yes. In each case you are trying to set a record, right? You seem to trying to marginalize the other cases, as if those competitors don't have the record in mind. Some runners clearly put the record in mind, even when their race is won. We just blasted Bolt for not going for the record in the last Olympics. I've seen many no hitters where the game was basically over, and the pitcher and his team were trying to get him a no hitter.

    And even using that logic, how is trying to run as fast as possible in track any different than a basketball player trying to score as much as possible or hold his defender to as few points as possible? They are all measurment markers for each respective sport. No difference....

    Yates only up by 4 at the half.
     
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    ICEHOUSE: Give it up allready
     
  7. macho GRANDE

    macho GRANDE Elvis, was a hero to most but................

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    That's what's up! Back2Back champs! Congrats JY. Nice copout Otto by not answering the question after I debunked your capital murder analogy. It's all good brother. No love lost. Again, congrats to The Yard!
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    Apparently you didn't read the thread? Nice copout by you. There were whole pages that rebuffed your claims. But if it makes you happy, when Bob Sura misses a shot for a triple double, it is an embarrassing moment in an otherwise stellar career. The stellar body of work allows one minor transgression. But when Ricky Davis misses a rebound for a triple double, it is just another ****-up in a career of ****-ups, and it becomes the career defining moment in a lifetime of crapulance.

    And they are still 4A, so who cares? Do you care who the Division III NCAA men's basketball champ is?
     
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  9. macho GRANDE

    macho GRANDE Elvis, was a hero to most but................

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    Now who's the poor sport?
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    I will never cheer when bad human beings succeed. Rather, I comfort myself with the knowledge that karma's a b**** and they'll receive payback in due time.
     
  11. macho GRANDE

    macho GRANDE Elvis, was a hero to most but................

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    Just make sure to root against that blowout no hitter too my friend cause he's a horrible self serving human being too.
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    Can you not read, or are you just too lazy to do so?
     
  13. Icehouse

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    Give up what...responding to someone asking me a question??
     
  14. Icehouse

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    What is the national ranking of the 5A champ? Come on now man...come better....

    Edit: And speaking of the lack of respect/media coverage for the school, I like how the game wasn't telivised. Now is that only because it's basketball and not something more popular like football?
     
  15. Ottomaton

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    I have no idea. But you never feel a little off when one of those small conference teams like Boise State never play good competition, but are ranked in the top 5 in national football? And part of the problem that's been mentioned several times is that the Yates coach appears to be running up the score to impress people like voters. How many of the people voting do you think have actually seen Yates play, beyond a couple of highlights?

    Let me as this - did Yates play any of the top 5A teams this year? If they did, that might make me feel a little bit more confident.

    When I used to pay a whole lot of attention, you'd be lucky if the one 5A game was televised. 4A, 3A, etc. never were. You usually got several 5A football games, and probably the 4A and 3A championships in football. That could have changed, however. Were you watching 4A championship games on TV before you were rooting for Yates?
     
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  16. macho GRANDE

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    I didn't see anyone successfully explain how that pitcher's individual motives are not similar to JY's team goals. Damn the guy threw at least four in a row. He was obviously vastly superior to his competition. By your logic by the fifth inning he should have began working on different pitches/release points/count stategy. Guess I cannot read.
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    You can't read.

    The outs have to be recorded before the game can end. Therefore, it isn't dogpiling. This isn't rocket science. Before Yates existed, running up the scorboard against defeated opponents was considered inappropriate. Throwing a no hitter wasn't. These aren't new, arbitrary rules that I decided to make up, just because I have it in for Yates HS.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Pretty much.

    Otto, I hate to break it to you, but you're in an echo chamber of Yates kool-aid drinkers... there is nothing to be gained from talking to either of these guys about this.

    Just do yourself a favor and let the baby have it's bottle.
     
  19. Icehouse

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    I hear you but think you are reaching. Yates is arguably the #1 school in the country. They are only 4A due to their enrollment, but that has nothing to do with how good their team is. Granted, a bigger school gives you a better chance to put top talent on the court (more kids to choose from), but this is an exception.

    I'm not sure, but they did win two out of state tournaments, and they don't invite scrub teams to compete in those.

    The last time I really paid attention to HS ball was in the early 2000's with the Willowridge teams. I don't recall if their games were available on TV. That's why I asked. Lot's of folks were mentioning the lack of TV in the chron game blog.

    But honestly, does it not sound wierd that a local team is arguably the best in the country, and playing for a 2nd title in a row, and the game can't even be broadcast locally? Classless or not, this team does represent HOUSTON, and I would expect the local media to give a local champ some love. I would be happy to see any local team/kids be the best in the country in something.
     
  20. Icehouse

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    I think you are missing his analogy. Maybe because you may not have made the comment that he is responding to. Some have said in situations where Yates is up real big (i.e. killing Lee 53-6 after Q1), that Yates should stop pressing (i.e. what they are great at) and use that time to work on other things, like half court sets, man to man D, etc. That's what I have an issue with, because the team would spend a lot of game time not working on what they do best, simply because their division is so bad.

    The analogy is saying when a kid has a no-hitter going, then instead of continuing to throw fastballs and chase it, that he should work on other aspects of his game. That analogy fits, but I admit I don't know if that's something a pitcher can do. Like do they teach young pitchers just to focus on a few throws, or can they work on anything, etc?
     

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