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Rick Adelman lost this game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yao4REAL, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. jameshuabao

    jameshuabao Member

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    wtf,yao is only one in this team now can play big games,others always sucked.we realky need a real good pg can pass and run offence
     
  2. UTAllTheWay

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    First off, I'll agree with you on not taking out Scola. Scola is one of those guys that you can tell how his game is going to go in the first quarter. Scola wasn't contributing on offense, and Dirk was killing him on the other end... you gotta shorten his minutes in that situation, especially in crunch time.

    As for the Yao Ming thing, the coach can tell the guys to go to Yao Ming all he wants... but it won't matter one bit if Yao can't get open, which is exactly what happened tonight. Yao couldn't get open to save his life. It is so damn sad that the simple act of fronting him takes away his effectiveness. Add the fact that he is in foul trouble, and Yao is pretty much useless.

    After all of the practice on the fronting problem, and all of the talking about how they were getting better at it... they, once again, fall apart in a big situation.
     
  3. comehere2

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    no doubt. he's the one to blame.
     
  4. jameshuabao

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    wtf,when yao was front,why some one else can not hit the open shot?yao draw the droubled or front, and otherts always sucked, can do nothing.at this time,we should miss healthy t-mac or get yao out of here
     
  5. pippendagimp

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    i didn't see that thread, but what was the general consensus on why brooks, for instance, can't run it effectively?

    i think he can stick the midrange J, but probably lacking the strength to finish his drives...
     
  6. Yao4REAL

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    I hate the fact that the team is playing well and have all the momentum only to be destroyed and break apart by a dumb coach that really don't have strategy to counter whatever the other team put in. I mean when you learn that the team is playing better with Hayes on Dirk, why continue putting Scola on him ..so he can continue to kill us?? After seeing Dirk continue killing Scola, he still DID NOT take him out...only after Dallas got back about 3 pts, then he started summon Chuck off the bench..it's always like that ....little dumb thing that cause us the game.

    If it's JVG, he would not, i REPEAT WOULD NOT allow pathetic Scola to stay in there any longer than 3 mins into the 3rd quarter. It is stupid coach like Rick Adelman ...his idea of letting his players play through it no matter what the match up problem is...IS THE REASON WHY his team...lose momentum. And why not put someone like Battier on Jason Terry knowing he wouldn't do a damm thing. It's just very upsetting to see Yao playing hard and the team playing well enough to win only to be destroyed by a dumb coach.
     
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    Except he caught a lob today, from brooks of all people, and dunked it. Or maybe I imagined that.
     
  8. DaFranchise03

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    Yao is not gonna magically gain some speed... He will not be able to beat the fronting on his own. When Yao shifts to one side of paint to other, there is always a couple of seconds where he is wide open. The problem is team never looks for him then. They wait till he stops and by then the opponent is already fronting him from that side. The team has to learn to give him the ball under the basket when he is on the move.
    Its called making two passes. When they start out on wing trying to give to Yao. Swing to top. Yao moves to middle. Then FEED THE MAN!!!! IF their is a double team when he is moving, then it means there should be a man open in the corner for a open shot. I dont understand why they never see this.

    We will not beat anybody unless they get Yao involved in the fourth. You can blame Yao if you want but it is pretty obvious they dont try hard in finding him. They only give him like 3 seconds to get open and then they go elsewhere.
     
  9. tanviraman

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    I think the team as a whole sucked with the exception of Lowry. But Adlemen is to blame for poor decisions. And you guys are being really hard on Yao, the refs took him out of the game in the 3rd quarter with those ridiculous offensive foul calls. How can Yao beat a front if refs are going to call ridiculous fouls, even when a scrub is gaurding the best offensive center in the league. Officiating sucks for Yao especially when we play dallas.
     
  10. UTAllTheWay

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    What?

    You put Scola in because he can actually contribute on offense. Granted, he didn't do it tonight, but when Yao is being fronted, you need all of the offensive weapons you can get... and Chuck Hayes certainly isn't one of those guys. Plus, Landry had more minutes than Scola anyways.
     
  11. smoothie

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    ok he got one for the season. it's not good enough to beat the fronting defense consistently is it? if it was, they would do it more often. if you go blaming the guards for not doing it more, or the coach for not "figuring it out" then you have to blame all 3 coaching regimes and every guard he's ever played with for not being able to beat the front.

    after all these years, all the coaches, and all the players... you just have to accept that he has a major flaw and it's no ones fault.
     
  12. i hate the mavs

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    adleman lost it on purpose, duh... he knows we match up better with portland, he sees everything you and i see, it's a way for us to lose without making the players throw away the game... its all part of his master plan.. geeez
     
  13. 2rings

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    And how do you address that? You run PnR OR you swing the ball to the weakside and reset the post OR you have a freakin guard that can hit what will necessarily be an open 14 footer. NONE of which happens very often for the Rox. Guards and ball movement beat a fronting defense, not the bigs.
     
  14. Shaud

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    Yeah because JVG accomplished so much more than Rick Adleman while in Houston. :rolleyes:

    Yet while JVG was here he got the blame.

    Everyone wants to blame the coach and not look at the players.
     
  15. dreammvp

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    exctly....i don't understand Adelamn...its ridiculous..its like he was trhowing this game away on purpose...Scola sucked and if WE fans see that, how can the coach not see that....yao goes for 19 pts in the 1st half but only gets 2 shot attempts in teh 3rd quarter....WHY THE H@@@ is Chuck hayes not playing the entire game and taking Dirk.....
    That was the worst coaching I have ever seen in one game....Morey better have a word with RA before the playoffs or we will be out in the first round again....
     
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    Everytime Yao was fronted, the Rockets swung Battier around the baseline to come to the same side of the court, thus crowding the lob pass in the second half.

    WTF is the purpose of that? They should have cleared that out and forced the Mavs to give up the lob or get a 3 second call and point it out to the refs.

    SFS!
     
  18. durvasa

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    Why can't we just accept that the Rockets aren't going to win every game against good teams? It's not like we're some sort of basketball juggernaut. We're a middling offensive team, always have been, and we're a solid defensive team. That's our identity. And it means, on the road, we aren't going to be favored to win most games against above average teams. It doesn't mean our coach sucks, or our players are pathetic. It's just reality. We need to temper our expectations.
     
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  19. Hak34

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    Wrong. I believe Yao beat the front early in the third quarter.

    The real problem was immediately after the third quarter started, Yao was once again relegated to setting screens at the top of the key to the three point line. It was absolutely amazing to watch Yao who was dominating the game once again get forced into a screener role. You have to rewatch the third quarter and watch as the offense was ran almost the entire third and half the fourth quarter with Adelmans "big man up top" initiating the screen.

    This one is on Rick. You guys wonder why Artest is happy launching those long range shots and not getting the rock to Yao? When you go to Yao in the high post setting screens, it become impossible for him to get position late in the shot clock at that point. Which is why AB and Artest resort to shooting.

    Rick its broken. The put Yao in the screener role just does not work. I said it before and Ill say it again. Would you put Shaq at the elbow? How about Hakeem? Would you do it when Shaq had 20 in the first half? If teams started doubling and fronting Shaq, think its the coaches job to find ways to create spacing for his star player?

    It was an excercise in stupid by Rick. Its like he still wants to force his style on Yao and the Rockets. Id say that if Rick continues to use Yao as a screener for such long stretches, he should be fired after this playoffs.
     
  20. MIAGI99

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    I agree, rick lost this game. What was he thinking leaving scola on dirk for three quarters. He did not mix match defense at all although Ron got in foul trouble in the second half. I can live with Terry getting his points but make dirk give the ball up. Also, rockets needed to front dirk, he got the ball so easily. Just ridiculous we let this one get away.
     

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