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Rick Adelman COY considerations?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jVgOwnsYou, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. EGYPT

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    Actually we blew up a big lead in that game, which was JVG fault :D

    this year Novak is no longer a rookie and he won't be on his first trip there so his play wouldn't mean as much.
     
  2. blackbird

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    Please take a look at Adelman's coaching record, his defense is underrated in this board. And I have one question, how come our best defender, who is a top 5 post defender in this league, don't have playtime in this so-called defensive oriented team? I'm a Adelman supporter from the top to the bottom.

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  3. vj23k

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    Hell no!

    JVG did as much with less last year!
     
  4. blackbird

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    Want to add something to my previous post. How come, whenever a lose, someone will say JVG can do better, it is Adelman's fault? Whenever a win, someone will say JVG can do better, because we play a better defense and we have a better roster, we need give more credit to JVG. How come, we didn't have a good roster in the past 4 years, suddenly, we have a good roster this year? How can you know we have the same roster if JVG is still here? Can you predict the furture? Is there any good reason behind it? Is there any contradiction? Please explain, I just don't understand it, it is too complex to me.

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  5. LCII

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    He'll be a COY candidate if he can get T-mac out of the first round. But he won't win it.
     
  6. morpheus133

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    Up to the recent win streak we were regarded as underachievers. Remember our win record last year was with Yao missing 34 games, almost half the season. The team has done much better since Scola made it into the starting rotation, but coach of the year is usually given to a coach that exceeded expectations.
     
  7. ParaSolid

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    You know what's crazy about that? The Rockets were short-handed in 3 out of the 4 contests, but still won 2 out of 4. Not bad, I'd say. I'm hoping that they win today and carry that momentum all the way to Dallas.
     
  8. AttackTheRack

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    He'll get consideration, certainly. Can't argue with what the Rox have done after their slow start.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    In a much weaker conference.
     
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    Byron Scott
    Phil Jackson
    Jerry Sloan
    Stan Van Gundy?
    Then maybe RA gets some consideration...
     
  11. emjohn

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    Very doubtful that he'd receive consideration. COY almost always looks for an overachieving team. We went into this year with higher expectations than a bottom half playoff seed. Adelman would have had to made us obviously improved than last year, and overall we'll be happy to get the same number as wins.

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  12. blackbird

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    Everyone and his grandma know that we have a new coach, a new system, and three new rookies. It takes time. So far, Tmac missed 14 games, and we are a better team than last year without Tmac. Recently, we are playing better because the three rookies. And, as DD said, everyone is stronger this year in the Wild West. All credits go to JVG, and no credit go to Adelman is ridiculous to me.

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  13. ParaSolid

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    Give the man credit. He was a huge factor in keeping the Rockets playing at a high level despite Yao's absence. The big 3 last year was much stronger than this year. There may be some better teams this season, but what JVG did last year was nothing short of great.
     
  14. morpheus133

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    Adelman deserves credit for turning the season around and for the great winning streak we have been on from the sub 500 position we were at in December, but he shares "credit" for getting us in that sub 500 position too.

    I just don't consider anything he has done to this point amazing from a coaching perspective. He has more talent and hasn't had Yao injured for almost half the season. Those two things should have improved us regardless of the coach. Not that he has done a bad job, especially lately. I certainly haven't been one to call for Adelman's job even when we were struggling. I give Adelman credit for developing Scola and Landry, and for sparking Rafer to a career season to this point, as well as giving us a more balanced offense without falling off signifcantly defensively.

    I said after we lost in the first round last year that it is the players much more than the coach that will determine how far we go and I still believe that. I consider Adelman to be roughly ~ to JVG overall. Not worse, not better, just two good coaches with different approaches to the game. But if we lost Yao for the rest of the regular season I doubt we end up with 52 wins like we did last year.
     
  15. Deckard

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    I am a RAF.

    A Rick Adelman fan. Hell yes, he should get consideration for the award. What will stop it has been mentioned already... the preseason expectations for the team.
     
  16. blackbird

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    As I said earlier, you keep discounting the transition period of new coach and new players, and discounting the current stronger West Conference. JVG trained these players into robots during the past 4 years, it is not easy to change everything overnight. Coach Adelman even said (see DD's earlier thread) these players need to learn how to make their own decisions on the court, and they are not suitable to play his offense. What does this mean to you? Thank you very much Mr. JVG, good job, Sir! :rolleyes:

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  17. vj23k

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    Hyperbole.

    This is a slightly better conference. If you're talking about all the contenders that improved recently, we still haven't played any of them since their trades.

    If you're talking about the bubble teams(Den, GS, Sac), we're not talking about night and day. They're marginally better.

    I'm not trying to hate on Adelman, but JVG had us at this record with less talent on the team as well as Yao missing lots of games. Adelman is doing a fine job, but nothing extraordinary, or COY-worthy. He's basically running JVG's sets and defense.

    This team is playing well(Especially the way we're playing NO right now), but COY's either take their no talent scrub squad to the playoffs or take their talent-rich team to 60 wins. Rarely anything else.
     
  18. Panda

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    I doubt JVG coached Scola and Landry to play D. Adelman's teams have been known to play on both ends of the court.

    Talented or not, I haven't seen the Rockets playing such fluid team basketball for a long time. The team work is great.

    RA developed his talent, and he's ripping profits now. He developed rookies. He deserves payback. How in the world can someone assume that JVG can do the same? It's not like Brooks, Novak, Landry and Scola could play from the first game. RA should have enjoyed the talent because he developed them. To assume that JVG can do the same is just imagination.
     
  19. Panda

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    JVG didn't have to develop 4 rookies(I count Novak as a de facto rookie) to add talent, didn't have to install a new system, didn't have to wait for different lineups to mesh. JVG missed out on Yao for 34 games, RA missed out on a team from the beginning and T-mac for 14 games. JVG couldn't win without T-mac, Rick can. JVG didn't manage the consistent exellence of winning 11 games straight.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    with a less talented team. bryon scott will win it this year if new orleans finishes with a 4 plus seed.
     

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