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Rick Adelman appreciation thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

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    I am seriously not trying to pick a fight with this post. it's just Adelman has been around for a while. He has a certain type of coaching style that he has been successful with. ANd probably doesn't change from year to year with the exception of adjusting for rules change. he adapts his coaching style to the players he has on hand and the teams he coaches against. So when you say he has improved over the last few games I just find hard to understand.

    I do agree he may have made some mistakes that with hindsight he would have probably done differently. He admitted once that there were situations he might have played Hill more. But ala in all what you see is what you get.

    ANyway on the eve before thanksgiving I am not trying to start an argument with you. I just think my opinion of Adelman is he is what he is mostly.

    Happy Thanksgiving :grin:
     
  2. LongTimeFan

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    4-10 isn't really a sign of a good coach. I understand the matchups with small ball, but Jordan Hill shouldn't be affected -- he can play in small ball lineups.

    Jordan Hill needs to be developed this year, not sat in favor of Chuck Hayes on a 4-10 team.
     
  3. denniscd

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    im glad some others are noticing rick's work!! we are rolling like a big wheel downhill now...lets go!
     
  4. DudeWah

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    We lost a game to Golden State earlier this year. Adelman saw a bunch of glaring mistakes both on his part and our players' parts. He worked to correct those and allocated minutes differently. He also put Lee on Ellis a lot more than the previous game. Wouldn't you agree that is what improving upon past experiences from game to game is?

    Also, David Lee was out, so that was a huge boost. But I digress. Happy Thanksgiving
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    This team has struggled with Yao and Brooks - in fact, it hasn't played well since....gasp, we had tracy macgrady. For all the virtrol he gets, he actually did help this team.

    Adelman has to go. He's a failure of a coach, and it's not just this year. Last year's record was awful considering the talent we had.

    Jeff Van Gundy, Rudy T - either of those guys are a massive step above RA. When is Les going to wake up and realize that you can't win in the NBA unless you can get your players to truly commit to team defense.
     
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    Any coach that keeps giving more minutes to Hayes instead of trying new players with greater potential has to go!
    Hayes might be a wonderful defensive player but he should not be playing more than 5 minutes!!!
     
  7. houstonhoya

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    you're out of your mind. but at least you have me material for my sig. thanks :)
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    sweet!
     
  9. LongTimeFan

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    Scratching my head at this. Last year we had a lot of talent? What? We should have had a better record than 42-40 when the 8th seed in the West won 50 games? And that 8th seed was the Thunder? I think the poster above was right.

    People need to wake up and realize that Rudy T will never be a head coach again. I know the popular idea was that Les forced him out and it wasn't his health -- but then he QUIT on the Lakers just a few years later because of his health. His days as a coach are gone.
     
  10. apollo33

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    The reason we won is because Monta was no longer Jesus, and Chuck Hayes became our Jesus
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Of course Rudy T will never come back. That's not the point I'm making.

    The point is that the team last year had Kevin Martin or Carl Landry, Luis Scola, Brooks, Lowry, Ariza, and Chase and still was only a .500 ball club. That's pretty weak for that much talent. You're solid at every position and can't win more than 42 games?

    This year we have even more talent and yet we're playing worse.

    To me, it's the defense. It's just utterly awful. Some of the worst defense I've seen on a Houston team ever. Bill Fitch, Don Chaney, Rudy T, JVG - all had much better defense.

    You can't blame brooks for our defense - he is out and it's just as bad. That's because it's not individual defense - but rather the team defensive philosophy that's broken.

    When Adelman first came on board, he didn't have to do anything, all the guy understood defense from the previous coach and practiced it correctly. Now that T-mac is gone along with most of the team from the past except Chuck Hayes and Battier - our defense sucks.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    Adelman swiss cheese defensive rotations don't work in the NBA. Period. He may coach a good offensive game, but do we really need Don Nelson here?
     
  12. LongTimeFan

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    We have very different definitions of 'talent' if you're arguing that, that squad should have won 50+ games.

    And the real problem with our defense is shotblocking at the rim. Without Yao, we have none. Adelman wasn't a genius two years ago when we had a top five defense in the NBA -- and he isn't an idiot this year because we don't have it. Yao makes a huge difference. Though I do think that we should be playing Jordan Hill a hell of a lot more.
     
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    The reason all that happened was because Adelman made the necessary adjustments to win. Namely, starting Chuck Hayes at center and keeping Miller on the bench where he belongs. Also, sticking Lee on Monta to keep him smothered at all times. Things happen for a reason...

    Again, David Lee not playing played a big part in my opinion, but whatever....
     
  14. TheFreak

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    The 2nd round of the playoffs called. It thinks you're a ****ing moron, like the rest of us.
     
  15. PeppermintCandy

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    You must know there are so many factors going into a win-loss record. It isn't necessarily a reflection of a coach's ability. Unless you really believe Adelman is one of the worst coaches in the league.

    I think Adelman is doing an excellent job developing Jordan Hill. It's not just about giving him a ton of minutes, but making him understand how to play the right way.

    Plus, Hayes had 16 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists in the first GSW game. Adelman would be a pretty poor coach if he didn't utilize Hayes against the Warriors again.
     
  16. the_hustler

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    That 3rd quarter stretch where Lowry-Battman-Hayes were playing together absolutely killed us.. and what was RA doing? nothing. was just staring at the floor and did not make any subs
     
  17. LongTimeFan

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    I agree about the W-L record not necessarily being a reflection of coaching ability. It's about how and why you're losing -- and I think RA deserves blame for a few of those losses this year.

    And I completely disagree about Hill. LET THE MAN PLAY!!!! Jordan Hill is our best post defender/rebounder and you pull him in crunch time? Because of a bogus offensive call? Give me a break, Rick! You have to let the young guys play through their mistakes and get experience in key situations. Tonight, Jordan Hill should have remained in the game. We were killed down low and rebounding once Hill went out. In fact, Jordan Hill should be getting at least 30 minutes a night.

    Morey had to sit down with Rick and tell him to play Hill in the beginning of the season. I think it's time for another sitdown.
     
  18. Hippieloser

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    I'm beginning to doubt that the "talent" on the team is as solid as we believed. Not a single serious challenger for All-Star consideration on the entire "12-deep" squad. No one on the team commands a double team or creates on offensive mismatch. The talent on defense is quite poor when you're considering Courtney Lee of of your best defenders, and the effort is not there, either, which does reflect on the coaching. The Rockets were not beating teams last year due to overwhelming talent, and you'd have a tough time convincing me after what we've seen so far that the team's talent level has been significantly upgraded this year.

    We may be facing the reality that the Rockets actually OVERACHIEVED last season.
     
  19. Ramathorn006

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    Orlando made it to the finals with Courtney Lee as their second best defender. But I agree with your post.
     
  20. Hippieloser

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    And how'd those Finals work out? :p Seriously though, Lee is playing about as well as anybody on the team at the moment, and that's the problem as I see it.
     

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