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Rick Adelman - 2 NBA Finals..so far

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. Shaud

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    My problem with Adelman is he takes way too long to make substitutions. He waits 4 or 5 minutes too late. Clearly in the 2nd quarter today the starters should of been in around the 7 minute mark, he waits until 4 minutes to bring them in. It was obvious we needed change because the bench was not getting the job done.

    I still think this team has overachieved though considering all that has happened so far this year.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    DD, watch the 6 games after tracy came back from his rest (when he put up 20, 7, 7) and tell me does tracy play any differently from previous years?

    tracy's lack of mobility this yr is the reason he looks so bad. if he comes back healthy, look for him to move more, but expect him to have the ball quite often making plays.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    he takes a while to adjust, kinda like JVG, which could hurt us in the playoffs.
     
  4. BMoney

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    Dude, this is a straw man argument. Who exactly is complaining that the Rockets are getting contributions from a number of players?
     
  5. badgerfan

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    Dealing with a motion offense like the Lakers possess is probably one of the toughest tests any defense can face. The Lakers can play great defense as well and they didn't do such a great job of keeping the Rockets down either.

    And at least the Lakers got to the Finals. They're also first in the West this year.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    T_mac1,

    There is a difference, it is beyond the assists, it is more about playing together.

    If Tmac goes one on one and gets an assist because he creates it, that is great, right?

    Of course it is...but late, teams will not let him do that, and we need more options.

    I agree Tmac can help, he is the best facilitator....when he is healthy, mentally and physically.

    He is not....so this thread is NOT about Tmac....it is about Adelman.

    Adelman knows what he is doing....he is going about it the right way, it is up to the players to understand their roles and get with the program....ALL OF THEM.

    DD
     
  7. badgerfan

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    Then expect the offense to stagnate while he hangs onto the ball and dribbles the shot clock away.

    If T-Mac can't play Adelman's offense then he needs to be benched. The team can move on without him.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Yes, they are, and it is great to see....what is your point? The team right now is playing great because all 5 players could have the ball and make a pass or a play, that is hard to prepare for as an opponent.

    KUDOS to Adelman for taking the current team without 2 of the best players and getting them to play TEAM BALL...and win.

    WELL DONE RICK !!

    Five stars Tinman for making a basketball thread.....zero stars for people derailing it and making it about something it is not.

    DD
     
  9. Shaud

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    Yup he does and also when someone is hot for some reason when he benches them he waits too long to put them back in. Rafer in the 1st half was on fire but didn't come back into the game until 4 minutes.

    2nd Half , Wafer starts to heat up but is glued to the bench towards the end of the game.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    exactly. even under adelman's system, the ball is usually in the best players' hands (ala in webber and bibby in sacto or porter/drexler in portland).

    tracy knows his role with this team. he played well under adelman last yr. it's just he has to get over the mental block and start playing well. that's all there is to it.

    like today, the ball was in yao's hands down the stretch like it should (rafer nearly killed us late)
     
  11. t_mac1

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    again, did you watch the season last yr without yao? if tracy comes back still not over the knee, then sure.

    but if he comes back relatively healthy, i don't know why you keep questioning if he can play within adelman's offense or not. HE DID THAT LAST YR.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I agree with this, he has to come back healthy, in shape, and ready to play within the system.

    This thread is about Adelman.......and how great he is at getting the team to play great TEAM ball.

    WOOOHOOO Rick Adelman !


    DD
     
  13. t_mac1

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    again, at the expense of defense. we've given up quite a few 55% shooting to our opponents this yr and this is going to cost us.

    rick needs to instill the defensive philosophy back. defense wins championships, not offense.

    we've got enough players to score enough points when all are healthy and motivated.
     
  14. badgerfan

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    T-Mac did okay last year in Adelman's offense. He's been absolutely horrible in it so far this season.
     
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    I think T-Mac1 may actually pass up DD in post count eventually :eek: :D
     
  16. DaDakota

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    We do need to work on our PnR defense that is the main problem teams that have a penetrating PG and a guy that can roll and hit the midrange shot or get to the rim are killing us...

    DD
     
  17. Nick

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    Likely more because he's been hindered by his lack of mobility more than simply "not buying into the system".

    A gimpy T-mac doesn't fit in on this system, JVG's system, Doc Rivers' system, or any other system which he's excelled at before.

    A truly healthy T-mac (which we likely will not see again)??? He can play in any system, but really, he would deserve to be the focal point of it like Kobe is (again, if he's truly healthy).
     
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    I dont question Adelmans system, I question his apparent lack of competent minute allocation and defensive adjustments. I question when our players come out of timeouts and are completely unaware of the time left on the shot clock. I question why it took half the season to bench Luther for Wafer. He is a good coach, he has a good system, but he has made some VERY questionable decisions with this team.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I think we will see a healthy Tmac, now that he is putting in the effort to strengthen his knee.

    I think he figured rest would heal it, and he found out that it took a lot of hard work as well.

    To me, he looks noticably thinner in these last 2 games in a suit......

    I expect him back, humbled, and in shape and ready to "Prove" something to everyone.

    DD
     
  20. t_mac1

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    b/c HE CAN'T MOVE A LICK haven't you noticed? he has been horrible in every aspect of his game.
     

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