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Ric Bucher Spreading T-Mac/KG Rumors

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fa7999, Mar 16, 2006.

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Mac for KG

Poll closed Mar 21, 2006.
  1. Yes

    349 vote(s)
    48.9%
  2. No

    248 vote(s)
    34.8%
  3. Tossup

    116 vote(s)
    16.3%
  1. SWTsig

    SWTsig Member

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    ditto.

    i almost feel dirty just thinking about it, because i love Tmac and think he's one of the 3 best players in the league when healthy...... but his back issue scares the hell out of me, and i'd hate to watch yao go into his prime with mcgrday sitting on the bench half the time.
     
  2. Chicken Boy

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    Come on, take one for the team.
     
  3. steddinotayto

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    I think the problem is that this transaction doesn't help us financially at all. I would love KG and would think about this trade but what are we going to do with Swift and Howard? Only one needs to stay as a backup and, last time I checked, there's really not a market for soft PFs that can't shoot or rebound.

    Maybe I'm a Tmac loyalist (c'mon we've only had him on the team for 2 years) but the Wolves would need to eat one of our PF contracts or find a 3rd team.
     
  4. forchette49

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    I wonder where he was getting this rumor from, sounds like offseason spin to give people something to write about in the summer...

    I must admit though that this trade makes a lot of sense though. KG VERY unhappy in Minny as they are a guarenteed lottery pick every year, T-Mac not able to keep up with our franchise centerpiece in Yao now that he's entered his prime... I'd just hate to exile that kinda player, he's given us so much to cheer for these past few seasons, and so much frustration, sound familiar?

    The only other teams that could seriously land KG would be Boston or New York, out of conference and Paul Pierce/SF3/Marbury/Crawford. But would these teams really want to be the Minny Celtics or the Boston Wolves?!? Would Minny want to go from lottery pick every year to 1st overall pick every year?!?

    I say no to both...

    Out East, Lebron needs help, out West, Kobe needs help... But would a package with Odom or Larry Hughes be enough to land a Top 10, possibly Top 5 player?

    I say no to both again...

    We are the only team to realistically have the assets to move that type of player. The extra first (early lottery) would essentially be given for Head (24th overall pick?) and our second has NBDL written all over it.

    That would leave us with Yao and KG in the front court, Alston at the point, and 2 first round lottery picks (how's JJ Redick and Rodney Carney sound?). Swift and/or Howard are now COMPLETELY expendable as well... We'd keep Bogans, Hayes, and Wesley (re-signed for vet min.) for bench play though...

    With all of this being said, I am very skeptical that this trade ever goes down. If CD does leave this offseason, would the next guy want this type of deal to be his first move?!? If CD stays, would he want to dismantle his "crown jewel" of a trade a few years ago?

    It'll be an interesting offseason for us with or without this deal IMO!
     
  5. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    If this is a true deal you, the Rockets almost have no choice to do it. You get equal, if not greater than equal value in the trade and you no longer have to worry about your team superstar's bad back.

    I LOVE having T-mac on the team, but his back scares me. A healthy KG is too much value to not do the deal if its real.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    KG + 1ST rOUNDER

    So Next Year
    It would be KG and YAO
    JHo , bogans , Alston

    Two 1s rounders and what ever we can pick up in the summer

    Have to do this trade

    Rocket River
    probably only 1 st rounder .. . cause minne won't give up lotto pick
     
  7. fa7999

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    RedDick will look awesome along with Yao & KG. :)
     
  8. fa7999

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    Ricky Davis has a huge ego and he will think that he is the #1 option over Yao and Mac/KG.
     
  9. Rasselas

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    Last year, we took the Mavs to seven games with a Pre-Dominant Yao.

    Now we have a Dominant Yao.

    Let's pair Dominant Yao up with a Healthy T-Mac for a full season. If that still doesn't work, then we make a move. But let's give this some time.
     
  10. Gutter Snipe

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    Because of TMac's health, you do this deal. I believe that both Yao and Garnett would be able to feed off of each other via lob passes, etc. They are both sharing big men, and they operate in different areas on offense.

    On defense, you finally have the personnel where you don't need to double-team anybody in the paint. This allows you to guard the perimeter (Suns and Mavs) effectively.
     
  11. solid

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    For one thing, the Wolves are not going to trade for an injured TMac, whose prognosis is uncertain. Second, if Tmac gets well, he fits the Rockets (or Ming) better than KG I think. Maybe not, but I would hate to trade TMac away. There is so little talent on this team, and the Rockets desperately need good shooting guards.
     
  12. Elie#17

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    I would totally not do this trade.

    As we witnessed last night, Yao is unstoppable. We don't need KG to stuff up the middle as our offense would then be even more congested. I'd much rather have a flexible scorer such as McGrady. Let McGrady rest his back, pickup a shooter in this year's draft.. a la Reddick, and let's see where we go next season.
     
  13. fa7999

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    TMac (save Kobe or Lebron) is the best player to go along with Yao if his back is healthy. But that is a HUGE IF. It could easily be that TMac's back is truly broken, and you get a Grant Hill and the Rockets are doomed for the next decade.
     
  14. wakkoman

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    Maybe it's only me, but I just dont see KG as a leader, especially in the 4th quarter of games. He has been known to always kinda zone out from the game when his teammates needed him the most.

    KG is an amazing player, dont get me wrong, but him and Yao? Yao hasn't really proven the ability to take over games in the 4th. Who would be our go to guy when it was time to be clutch?

    I would think that KG and T-Mac could be better than T-Mac and Yao, but I wouldn't want to give up Yao considering how well he has been playing, and consistently too.

    I say we look at T-Macs back situation at the end of the season/summer and if it looks like it's going to be an issue that will bother him, then yeah go for a trade. But if he's going to be healthy, I hope he goes nowhere
     
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    I think it's really sad that people quit so quickly on rocket players. It was done to Yao earlier in the season by alot of you with Yao for KG threads and you still haven't learned your lesson.

    There I vented.

    IMO, I wouldn't do it. Instead of making changes to our big 2, what we need to be focusing on in the offseason is upgrading our role players to players who can make an open shot and get taller at the SG position among other things.
     
  17. robbie380

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    KG is a great player and all but the problem is his game and yao's game are not complementary to each other. it would be a total clash to have these two guys on the same team and i don't think it would add a ton of scoring either. we need scorers and shooters to go around yao. t-mac is a scorer and a shooter. even though he isn't healthy i would rather have the complementary player in t-mac.
     
  18. barryxzz

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    If Tmac is damaged goods, then the only reason Wolves trade for him will be to cut him like Magic cut Penny, to clear the caps for rebuild.
     
  19. JayZ750

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    Clearly the only reason the Rockets braintrust would even be considering anything is due to health.

    5-10 games a season may not seem like a lot...but it can have a pretty big effect on your team, especially in the Western Conference and especially with home court advantage being so important. T-Mac seemingly regularly misses at least this much. Sometimes (like this year), more.

    It is easy to complain that the team never has any time to gel because they keep trading...but they equally never have time to gel because they don't even have the same lineup game to game because of injuries.

    I guess my only point is that I don't think this team will ever win a championship with T-Mac out 5-10 games a year. Not with Dallas and San Antonio in our division and Phoenix sitting pretty for a few years.

    Of course, maybe Tracy stays healthy for the next 5 years...who knows??
     
  20. bejezuz

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    Man, talk about twin towers. Gives me wood just thinking about it. We would own the boards and own the lane.
     

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