No, nobody cann't be traded. IF we can land one superstar, I think we will not mind to trade Martin .
I would love to have Melo here. I am not going to get as excited as I got about Bosh though. The deals that happen are usually the ones you least expect, so let's hope we have a miracle here
Yes, except that Miami had over $40M in cap space. How do you plan for NY to be able to sign two more max players? They could renounce all of their free agents and be able to come up with enough cap space (~15M) to sign another max guy, but how do they get two? Sorry, but it doesn't seem plain and simple to me.
I'm sorry, I don't have the link, I think it was from one of the podcast or radio interviews Morey did last season. Purely on memory, so I could be offbase, but I distinctly remember him saying something about Melo being overrated (or at least implying that).
If they are gonna get rid of Melo they need someone to replace his scoring and want some cheap young talent on rookie contracts and some expirings. Maybe some picks as well and they would want us to take back a bad contract of theirs. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2c3rthw Battier (expiring) + Hill (young talent) + Patterson (young talent) + Martin (scoring) + 2012 NY Pick + Harris for Carmelo + Smith + Anderson Rockets lineup Brooks/Lowry Lee/Smith Carmelo/Budinger Scola/Anderson/Hayes Yao/Miller/Jeffries Nuggets lineup Billups/Lawson Martin/Afflalo Battier/Harrington Martin/Patterson Nene/Hill
I don't recall Morey saying that either. I'd like to know the context of the statement and who he considers better than Melo. Off the top of my head: LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Durant, Howard. Beyond that...and Durant is highly debatable...I don't see any other players that are clearly better than Melo. He's a scoring machine whose defense is not as bad as purported. Playoff time and late last season, I saw more effort from him on that side of the court. Overrated implies overpaid, in my book, and Melo is clearly a max leveled player. Now I do recognize that he needs a strong leader on the team (Denver really didn't take off until Chauncey got there with his abilities and leadership); and, ideally, a team would get those qualities from their best player. With Melo, you don't (maybe that's the overrated part?), but you don't pass on him for that flaw. You find him his strong willed Robin and go to war with it. Maybe, hopefully, Aaron has it in him. He certainly has the pure talent and has shined on the big stage before. It all probably a moot point, as I am convinced Melo wants to go back home to NY. Paul, Amare and Melo is a scary core and I'm sure he knows that, as well. Still, if we could get him to re-sign with Denver then trade him to us...we'd be fools to pass on him.
Why would they give us their two best bench players along with Melo? I think more realistic trades are Hou Gets - Melo, Den Gets - Battier, Patterson, Martin and Picks OR Hou Gets- Melo, Lawson Den Gets - Brooks, Martin, Hill, Budinger and picks
You make good points. I don't recall hearing that from Morey, but I didn't know if I was wrong and missed something. He is an excellent player, but like you mentioned his leadership leaves something to be desired. I know this is an intangible but I think it is an important one, does he have a killer instinct? I know Chris Paul has a killer instinct, Kobe has it, Garnett has it, as quiet as Duncan seems (he majored in Psychology) believe Duncan has a killer instinct (like Hakeem did, he just controls it see D.Robinson game). I just don't know yet if Melo has the heart to dominate a player just as good him when it counts and do whatever it takes to win it all (defense included). When you mention his leadership flaws it reminds me of T-mac, extraordinarily gifted but lacked the level of heart (the level of arrogance to believe you can win every game every time against anyone, like MJ, Bird, hell even Kobe had) to dominate at that level. (Kyle Lowry has this mentality though) I like guys who are the best player, but also the hardest workers in the gym/in practice, on defense and are the leaders. To his credit, he did lead his college team to a championship and that builds character (you learn what it takes to win). I don't want to risk the future for a 1 year rent, but if he signs an extension (or a sign and trade type setup)and wants to play here I agree with you, I would go for it.
cp3 has 2 years left. melo has 1 year left. why do knicks need to sign both at same time? this time, big trios come together one by one. it's different from miami's trio. you see. problem is solved. :grin:
Like the idea but I think you won't need to trade that much talent for Melo if he is truly already said bye bye.... Martin, Hill and JJ + 2011 1st rd pick for Melo Brooks/Lowry Lee/Budinger Melo/Battier Scola/Hayes/Patterson Yao/Miller That is a championship rotation and either gets you under the luxury tax or close to it.
Looking at what type of personalities are on our team and their IQ level and how well they mash together as a team, I can't see the Rockets Management taking on Melo, considering how they recently got rid of Tracy, RON RON and Ariza to stabilize the mindset of our team.
Actually, the trade that makes some sense for both teams could well be a Melo for Rashard swap. Denver gets Rashard wrapped up for 3 more seasons. While he is overpaid, what better value could they get for Melo? NY ain't got nuthin to brag about. Are they going to send Denver Amare? Nope. The rest is pieces parts. Who else is going to step up and offer anything of any serious value for Melo if he is unwilling to sign an extension? Perhaps the Lakers step up and offer Bynum and Odom for Anthony???? Don't see Morey wanting him that bad. And Morey definitely is not going to trade for him to get a TE when he skips town to NY next seson......unless that is the only alternative to keep Denver from trading him to NY for beans and screwing over our draft pick value.
Really? Bro, are you serious? If you were Denver and you had to pick between Orlando's Rashard Lewis offer or New York's offer with Eddy Curry's expiring, perhaps Chandler, and Douglas or Walker, you would take Orlando's?
I don't think that'd be the reason. The sole reason and the elephant in the room is still that he'd not be extended, and Free Agency is looming. If he came here, I'm HOPING it's with the extension. There's no way I see Morey willing to take that risk. If he's not willing to come with an extension, it means he doesn't see us as a long-term commitment. Giving a high price, which Denver would command, for Carmelo is like buying an expensive engagement ring to a girl that you just flirted with, but has a boyfriend.
I don't want him unless it's a lock he's gonna be staying here for more then one season, especially if we have to give up Martin or Brooks
Morey was clearing "headcase space" to absorb Carmelo Anthony. It is well known each team has room for only one headcase.
Who has caps pace left for next year besides Knicks? Grizzlies do, but I don't think he'll sign there.
You're right, because after two years of waiting NY actually gets an extra 15 million in cap added to the league salary cap. No wait...they don't. Also consider that Randolph and Gallo would be free agents and would probably get more money. Even if they sign for their qualifier, that only leaves 10 million to sign cp3... with them somehow getting rid of felton and without having anybody else on the roster. Nice try.
