The have good young talent. There isn't a guy on this roster who can be 1st,2nd or even 3rd team all nba. So basically, they don't have a top 20 player on the roster. How many teams have you seen win anything without a top 15 playe on their roster? Not many if any at all.
You may be right about that, but we do have some that COULD get there in Brooks, Budinger, Patterson, Hill, Lowry, Lee, Taylor.......Battier And, uh...Yao when healthy is certainly already on the ALL NBA teams. DD
- Yao is a 2x all nba 2nd team (as recently as 2009) and 3x all nba 3rd team player. I know this doesn't mean much to you and frankly it doesn't to me either cause of his injury but it's still fact. - Kevin Martin is arguabally a top 5 shooting guard in the league. He's got the talent and skill to make 3rd team all nba every year. - Brooks is one of the better young PG's out there. He has chances to make all nba 3rd team in his future. We may not have a top 15 or top 20 player but we have at least 4 top 25-40 players (Yao, Martin, Brooks, Scola). The whole reason why we're speculating on all this trade talk is because we're trying to acquire a top 15 player so we can "win anything" like you said. The nice thing is we have the assets to do so. Try join the speculation instead of being so close-minded and saying there's no chance. It's more fun this way. Especially when it can be reality.
I think you are usually right, but when you have Miami with the Big 3, the Lakers with the big two, and the Celtics with their own (but aging) Big 3, the stakes are raised. Just being good isn't good enough.
Dude, lol, I know you are prone to extreme exaggeration and are basically completely blind when it comes to young players, but nobody on that list has a chance to be all NBA.
Look, contrary to what some believe, I am not saying they ARE going to get there, but to discount that there is a chance, albeit slight is not very smart. DD
Kevin martin is as close to the all star game or all nba as corey maggette. Thats not saying maggette is a bad player or martin is a bad player, they're just the same player except maggatte is probably tougher. Yao was 2nd team 3 yrs ago and now he's coming off a major injury. I like scoal and what he brings, but he's not a top 20 player either. Everyone on this board know my feeling about brooks. I know, not think he is the rockets best player, period, but he's right at 20 if that. I'm not close minded, I'm just real about the situation. They have some good,cheap talent and that fine, but not having a 10-11m expiring to combine with those young assets will take alot of that young talent to make this blockbuster trade everyone is waiting for. To be honest, there are only 2 high impact game chaning players left availible and I'm pretty sure paul aint coming here and anthony is angling toward ny probably. I don't know why he's not angling toward dc which is where he's from, well baltimore. I hope I'm proven wrong big time and I will watch and do what i do, but the most logical way to get that star is via draft. I'm not about tanking, i just think they should've gotten rid of the older players and let the young guys play.
WOW. You're out of your mind. I would consider deleting this post before losing any credibility you had.
I agree with the guys that say wait and see. This team as it stands has a very high ceiling. The posters here seem to have well thought out ideas, and are being honest (emotions aside for the most part) about what they really think the team should do for the future. Since we're getting down to the raw truth, if Yao gets another season ending injury (his 6th year in a row I think), I think that's it. Either he retires for his health, or we trade him. Regardless of health or not, I think (and Daryl has been trying to do this, it seems) we should trade to get a high pick/star in the draft. Youth, talent and more than likely won't shaft us in free agency when his rookie contract is up. If Yao goes down, and all the superstars find homes elsewhere, I think we should especially be looking to trade up very high in the draft (as I think this team has too much talent to be bad enough to get a high pick) We also don't know how high the NY picks will be or what he can get for them if a player another team loves drops to our pick. I would love to have a superstar, but if this team does better than expected we may not need one.
I don't see anything wrong with his post. Kevin Martin, like Maggette, hasn't proven anything and is a one dimensional player. He hasn't done squat in his whole career besides put up great numbers on bad teams.
Whats so incredible about what i said? What do you want to compare? Stats,per,usage,ts%, what? They're the same player to me and i have maintained this. Go look at maggette last 6 years and compare them to martin. Nevermind, i will do it for you. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/maggeco01.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/martike02.html Martin: Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 2004-05 21 SAC NBA 45 455 8.7 .464 .406 7.1 7.1 7.1 6.8 1.8 0.5 14.5 16.1 96 111 -0.1 0.2 0.1 0.016 2005-06 22 SAC NBA 72 1913 14.8 .604 .540 3.6 12.3 8.0 8.3 1.5 0.3 11.2 17.4 116 107 3.6 1.9 5.5 0.137 2006-07 23 SAC NBA 80 2818 20.1 .614 .533 2.8 11.6 7.1 10.9 1.8 0.3 9.3 23.2 120 109 8.3 1.9 10.2 0.173 2007-08 24 SAC NBA 61 2216 21.0 .618 .515 2.6 11.8 7.3 10.1 1.4 0.2 10.1 26.2 121 112 7.4 1.1 8.4 0.183 2008-09 25 SAC NBA 51 1947 19.2 .601 .491 1.7 9.3 5.5 12.3 1.6 0.3 12.3 27.4 115 117 4.7 0.1 4.7 0.117 2009-10 26 TOT NBA 46 1633 17.0 .561 .468 2.0 9.7 5.8 11.2 1.4 0.3 9.8 25.3 113 111 3.2 1.0 4.2 0.123 2009-10 26 SAC NBA 22 774 17.0 .535 .456 2.9 11.1 7.0 11.9 1.5 0.4 7.9 25.3 112 112 1.5 0.4 1.9 0.116 2009-10 26 HOU NBA 24 859 17.1 .586 .479 1.2 8.4 4.7 10.5 1.4 0.2 11.6 25.4 113 111 1.8 0.5 2.3 0.129 Career NBA 355 10982 18.3 .598 .507 2.8 10.9 6.8 10.4 1.6 0.3 10.6 23.5 117 111 27.1 6.0 33.1 0.145 Maggette: Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 1999-00 20 ORL NBA 77 1370 14.1 .553 .480 9.8 14.3 12.0 7.0 0.9 1.3 19.1 22.1 102 104 1.2 1.4 2.6 0.091 2000-01 21 LAC NBA 69 1359 18.2 .562 .479 7.6 16.6 12.3 10.8 1.4 0.5 14.7 24.5 108 105 2.7 1.1 3.9 0.137 2001-02 22 LAC NBA 63 1615 14.3 .560 .487 3.8 12.3 8.1 11.5 1.4 0.8 15.3 21.1 107 108 2.3 1.0 3.3 0.099 2002-03 23 LAC NBA 64 2006 17.4 .564 .484 4.4 13.8 9.1 11.2 1.4 0.6 13.4 24.8 109 108 4.0 1.0 5.0 0.119 2003-04 24 LAC NBA 73 2628 20.1 .586 .485 4.1 14.6 9.3 15.8 1.3 0.4 13.9 25.2 115 110 8.2 0.5 8.6 0.157 2004-05 25 LAC NBA 66 2436 19.9 .574 .457 3.6 15.5 9.7 16.6 1.5 0.2 13.3 27.9 112 107 6.0 2.2 8.1 0.160 2005-06 26 LAC NBA 32 943 18.9 .584 .477 3.6 16.6 10.4 12.1 1.1 0.3 13.8 27.7 110 105 1.9 1.1 3.0 0.154 2006-07 27 LAC NBA 75 2291 18.6 .583 .462 4.7 18.2 11.5 15.9 1.5 0.5 15.6 26.0 110 106 4.5 2.5 7.0 0.146 2007-08 28 LAC NBA 70 2502 19.3 .595 .497 3.6 14.7 9.1 14.3 1.5 0.2 13.0 27.6 112 110 5.1 1.8 6.9 0.133 2008-09 29 GSW NBA 51 1588 16.9 .582 .479 3.4 16.0 9.7 9.2 1.4 0.3 12.8 25.2 112 114 2.8 0.6 3.3 0.100 2009-10 30 GSW NBA 70 2081 20.3 .615 .523 4.9 15.2 10.0 13.2 1.2 0.1 13.0 26.7 116 113 5.6 0.7 6.3 0.145 Career NBA 710 20819 18.3 .581 .483 4.7 15.2 10.0 13.1 1.3 0.5 14.1 25.5 111 109 44.2 13.8 58.0 0.134 Please tell me the differnce besides the name on the back of the jersey.
I don't see us trading to get Anthony because I just don't see us being able to give them something that's worth it to them, and I don't think Denver has to trade him as badly as the media seems to think they do. I don't see many scenarios where Melo walks away for nothing. The Knicks is the big concern, and I think that's really the only serious threat to sign him outright. Everyone else would do a sign and trade, so Denver is getting something back regardless. And the big problem with doing a deal with Houston is that a part of it will be the Knicks picks, which will be worthless if Melo leaves Houston for NY. So for Houston to be a trading partner, Melo needs to sign an extension first. So why would Melo sign an extension? For a fear the new CBA is going to affect signing a contract later. Besides that, Denver already has several expirings, so our expirings really aren't all that valuable. The TE can't be used to get Melo since it can't be combined with something else. We would have to take back another contract in a separate deal, but I don't even think Denver has interesting in dumping a player that would match the TE. And of course, we're in the same conference as Denver, not a plus for us. Personally, I think this is going to on a couple months till it's clear who the contenders are, and if Denver is going to do anything this year. It's going to be a while before the options are really clear....and I think it's unlikely that Houston becomes a clear choice for a destination. And no, I don't like Anthony, but I do think he would make our team better if we didn't give up much. I just don't think it's a possiblity. What would be really good for us is if the Pacers or Sixers want to try renting Melo, and we were able to get in on the deal somehow.
I have been preaching about Maggette for YEARS ! People read about him and turn sour, but if you dig a little deeper you see a highly efficient basketball player, and one whom Popovich targeted as well. DD
I recall the Spurs tried to sign him with the MLE. Not at his current salary. Maggette has definite strengths. Neither he or Martin are perfect but I prefer Martin on this team since he's the better outside shooter and consumes less shot clock to get his points.
what about 76ers? Thaddeus Young is #12 pick 2 or 3 years ago. 76ers are not going to be good this coming season. 1st round pick should be pretty good too.
They're not contenders, why would they acquire Melo only to lose him at seasons end. I mean with Melo they may make the playoffs but then get sent home right away so why sacrifice Young and a pick for that?
