Larv, That is a tough question to answer, and it would probably not be all that popular (Shocker). I would wait to see how healthy and effective Yao is going to be and make the decision at that point. I could see several scenarios regarding the Rox, from trading Yao at the deadline as an expiring contract for high draft picks, to sticking with him going forward. And honestly, it all depends upon his health.....ask me in February, and I will have a better idea then. DD
Put up or shut up. You keep saying "push the reset button" and trade the old cogs but you never suggest specific trades. Its easy to point out problems, much harder to offer up solutions.
I don't, because unlike you who already has his mind made up, I want to ponder it a little and see if Yao is healthy. Because if he is healthy, I would sign him up for a smaller deal and go forward that way. And, I know, that is not what you would do....lol. DD
I only ask because you have were luke warm on Bosh, CP3 and now Melo. What player are you waiting for....because your standards seem really high.
Woah, slow down there fella, Leeb has ALWAYS made suggestions about trades, most including Shane, but still.... He is a bit like me, not afraid to stand on his balls and scream, and then to wonder why he is screaming. I don't like Melo or CP3, but would take either one....Bosh to me is a panzy...a soft player who put up numbers on a crap team..... However, if we can't get one of the big names, then I would try to get some very high draft picks and would have taken Elton Brand's contract, paid the Luxury tax this year and drafted Evan Turner. DD
See what happens when you jump off the lee train and try to think about stuff on your own,lol? Actually, I have said that would be a bad option, but here is the problem with that. The rockets will limit his time alot this year and it will not be possible to tell if his body would hold up. If it were me, I would play him 35 mins a night after the all star break to see if his foot or body can hold up. If he cheks out ok, then i would give him a decent contract. If he fails, see yao later, thanks for nothing. Just like i used my rig terminology once i got it out the shop. I'm not going to drive 55mph for a month because i want to wait till the neww inectors,cams, and other internals get broken in. I'm going to get on 1-10, past the scale house and put it in the wind till the needle is coming back around. I need to know if everything is ok or do i need to take it back to freightliner where they just charged me 15k for a new motor and raise hell.
I agree with that, remember my thread where I asked everyone how they would handle Yao? I said they have to run him hard to find out if he will hold up...still believe that.... DD
I have read his premise on these players and his insistance on trading them away. What I have not heard is specific trades that make us better in the long run. I am still waiting. Morey insinuated that we made that offer and ultimately Philly turned it down.
I have heard mixed stuff on that, from what you said, to their asking price was just too high. I guess we shall never know, but I really liked Evan Turner, would have tossed Cbud in there to get the deal done... I would trade Yao today for Blake Griffin or Brooke Lopez though. DD
Not sure what you mean by starting over. If you mean getting some new young talent, it seems the Rockets have already been doing that. Adelman has been the head coach and Morey has been the GM for 3 seasons, and the only holdovers from the pre-Adelman/Morey era are Yao, Hayes and Battier. Everyone else on the roster has been around for 3 years or less. And among that group, the only ones that was even on the 07/08 team are Brooks and Scola (and Mike Harris, but he doesn't count ). Just how much more roster turnover can the Rockets have? And it's not like most of these guys are old, either. Miller is the only elderly one. Yao, Battier, and Scola are the other remotely old ones. And there are plenty of young guys like Brooks, Budinger, Hill, Lowry, Lee, Patterson, etc. on the roster. If you mean tanking... I'm sure you want to get rid of Yao, Miller, Scola and Battier. But then what? Are you going to trade other guys, too? Seems like they might win you too many games to truely be horrible. And if you get rid of them, are you guranteed to get a true great in the draft? Or even has soem decent enough odds on it?
I really haven't given a deadline deal involving Yao any thought, nor am I any sort of capologist, but if we did such a deal involving Yao for picks, wouldn't we get a TE worth $17,686,100? That's a serious trade chip.
I am happy to see what he does this year, but doesn't mean I would not look at getting someone else. DD
- We're an up and coming team that has a great nucleus, fantastic coach and a wizard for a GM. - Injury prone big man, hasn't passed the 2nd round since 97 blah blah blah. It's the Lakers and everyone else after that has an equally good shot at 2nd place in the west in terms of playoff seeding. Once the playoffs start anything can happen. I don't think anybody predicted the Suns to advance to the Western Conference Finals last year. NOBODY. - We do have great young talent (Brooks, Lowry, Martin, Lee, Patterson NY Picks) and space (expirings). Whens the last time you saw a Superstar get traded for another Superstar straight up? When a Superstar is traded it's usually for another slightly less player or an up and coming young talent/prospect + Cap relief + picks + veteran plugin + cash or a combination of those sorts. - Furthermore, what disgruntled Superstar or even star do you think the Nuggets will get in return? The best they can get is maybe like a Vince Carter. We can offer a better package than the Magic. Maybe Iggy or Granger? Would Melo agree to get traded to those bottom feeders (Philly, Indy)? Doubt it. I'm about as realistic as they come and I don't like to imagine or over-dream but we have the pieces and assets to make a deal happen. We're in this position because Morey has done a tremendous job of putting us in this position. I mentioned earlier that the Courtney Lee for Ariza trade might be the prelude to Morey's best move yet. Even it's not Carmelo... he has put us in position to acquire a game changing/impact player.
I thought most Rockets Fans are hoping that Yao Ming has a great season? I know I am looking forward to his return. Of course I have always been a fan of his while several others have always disapproved of him and continue their campaign of hate.
So true, he has done a great job of putting us at least in the discussion. The problem is that the players hold all the power here, and if they don't want to come to Houston, it won't happen. No GM would be dumb enough to take on Melo if he was leaving in a year.....unless it was for pieces that were not really that important. Yao Ming's situation is keeping this team in a holding pattern, until his health is decided, we are not going to get any better than what we have on the court right now. DD
If you had to choose between durant and westbrook vs any of the rockets young guns, who would u take? What about roy and aldrdge? Willams and jefferson? My point is, they don't have a young guy who is or can be special. So right now, they're in the wrong window. Their window should be the same one portland,ok city,and utah are in not the one with the celtics,heat,magic,mavs,spurs, or even the nuggets. They don't have those 1 or 2 guys that can really truly put them in contention. So what you do is get rid of the older guys and keep building with young players and hopefully your team will have cap space and a future to go get that 1 piece like orlando did when they lined up hill,duncan, and tracy.Ok City has done it with durant,westbrrok, and maybe even green. Portland did it with roy and aldridge. The heat killed the game with their moves this past offseason. I, like alot of other long time rockets fans are patient. I will still go to my same number of games and will still watch and record the others, but right now, they are not where they need to be in terms of contending. So what they will continue to do is pick from 14-21 and add solid players and get a solid record and win absolutely 0. They have too many either or players. Th players are either good on offense or good on defense. They don't have any 2 way players except for yao for the most part. Depth is good, but when the other player is like the bizzarro superman, they cancel each other out.
