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RFJ jr to lead Department of Health and Human Services

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Nov 14, 2024.

  1. Commodore

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    Why should anyone who has write access be trusted? If you don't trust your superiors you should resign immediately.
     
  2. Amiga

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    That’s why he was pushed out.

    Long-term, non-political career professionals are trustworthy. But when newcomers arrive pushing a political agenda not grounded in science, I get why he didn’t trust them.

    Our database should be redundant and tamper-proof. No new administration should have the power to make political edits. The database doesn’t belong to any administration. It belongs to the people.
     
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  3. Commodore

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    why?

    The people elected the administration.

    The database is not autonomous. Some human controls it.
     
  4. Amiga

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    Because they aren’t political appointees, they’ve served under both Democratic and Republican administrations, with real processes in place to ensure they act ethically and within the law.

    The administration works for the people. All government data belongs to the people, not to elected officials.

    Data should never be edited or deleted unless it is factually incorrect. It certainly shouldn’t be altered for political reasons.
     
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  5. Commodore

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    How is insubordination serving the popularly elected administration?

    none of this happened
     
  6. Amiga

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    Your premise is incorrect and un-American.

    Insubordination isn’t about defying a popularly elected administration; it’s about protecting the integrity of the office and upholding the Constitution. Government workers don’t blindly serve elected officials - they serve the rule of law, ensuring the principles of our democracy are upheld, regardless of who is in power. Their first duty is to the Constitution, not any individual administration.

    While he was rightfully removed for denying write access, his actions were based on the belief that allowing it could lead to data manipulation or deletion. He acted to protect our data, and I fully understand why he did so.

    We don’t know if it happened, but it should never happen. He is not alone - data has disappeared from government public-facing platforms, and many are concerned that this administration might have deleted them.
     
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    Do you trust the sincerity of someone who says they will solve a scientific question in regards to autism "in three months"? Do sincere people speak this way about advancing science? It sounds like a man who already has a conclusion and will not go through sincere peer reviewed analysis of the study.

    He can be sincere about his beliefs of vaccines and autism but he isn't sincere in his method of convincing the public. He's going to find "evidence" to satisfy his conclusion that he already made.
     
  9. pgabriel

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    Crazy and insincerity are different things
     
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    It's a fine line. Like I said, he could be sincere about his beliefs but not sincere in his methods to convince the public of his beliefs.
     
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    It's a good thing they've cut the funding for and fired the scientists working and doing research on things like this.

    **** RFKJr and anyone who believes his bullshit, the faster we can throw this guy out, the better the world will be.
     
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  12. Amiga

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    The government does talk about the increased risk for both parents (older men actually have a higher risk than older women; eg the risk goes from 1% in the general population to 4% for men over 55). Doctors talk about it. Researchers talk about it.

    I judge it as 95% confirmation bias. There’s a slight chance he might change his mind, but that’s doubtful given who he tasked to lead the study (a person who is wholly unqualified, holds a strong opinion that vaccines cause autism, and is also unethical - having practiced medicine without a license).

    He said we’ll know the cause of autism by this Sept. Agencies around the world have tackle that question for several decades, and no one has figured out the cause. His confidence sounds more like a conclusion he’s already reached.
     
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    Exactly this.
     
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    I'guess I just feel that women are working more and delaying starting families and that directly to ties to the increase in rates but obviously I'm not qualified to make these assessments. But summing up what I'm saying is that it's not just me risk but increase in rates that are government doesn't talk about.

    I hadn't realized Rfkjr said he expects to find the cause by September. Yes he seems to intelligent to make such a ridiculous proclamation unless he thinks he already knows.

    I have a hard time saving someone isn't smart when although being privileged they still have accomplishments like a law degree and serving as an assistant district attorney and teaching law despite his conspiracy theories
     
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    Is he the smart one, or is it the worm in his brain?
     
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  16. Amiga

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    Personally, I think he's quite convinced that it's some toxins. We'll see in Sept.

    p.s. there are disagreement over wether ASD rate is even going up. Still, there have been plenty of studies, and IIRC, there are various factors that could contribute to ASD, ranging from how close you live to a highway (suggest air pollutants) to biological age. Vaccine, however, are not one of those factors according to studies to date. But bottom line, it's still unknown what are the causes of ASD.
     
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    I think this is a two fold issue. One is the fast and loose application of the autism label to anyone who is shy, introverted, or sensitive. People have quirks and now they’re called autistic.
    Second is Sylvia is talking about individuals with moderate and severe forms of autism. When we were younger these were the special needs kids who would’ve been labeled r****ded.

    I think the uptick in autism diagnoses are because we are growing in the first group; not the second group. I wouldn’t wish the form of autism that Sylvia sees on anyone. One of my coworkers kid is a teenager now with severe autism and he is violent and unstable.
     
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    But it's RFK Jr who is all dumb about the second number.
     

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