Fat Ollie was a heckuva ballplayer who ate his way out f the league, ala Full Plate Williams. Big Baby, to date, has shown a professional face - not so full of pie. I am chromosonally inclined to like BB. I am Rocketsosonally inclined to like CL.
I think there's anyone to compare the two. Landry been given almost no opportunity to play meaningful minutes. Not that it's anyone's fault given that we have Scola and Hayes. That said, Landry has been impressive in his few appearances.
Saw this thread last night, but didn't feel I knew enough about Davis to actually vote. And I knew I would be hugely biased after Landry's performance. This morning the vote was too easy for me to make, after and only after I viewed the BOS-DET clip. Although the clip made him look good, I feel this guy is going to be struggling with his weight. When someone posted Oliver Miller's name, I thought, "That will be a huge issue for Davis." (I laughed at myself for the pun) Anyway, like previously mentioned, Landry would be a better fit with Yao. BTW, am I the only person that switches mental tracks when they see the name "Glenn Davis"?
Still a very close call. If you look at the two players' talent alone, I think Davis has an edge as a true PF. That could be important in the West. But there are two factors that push me to the Landry side, just slightly: 1. The most obvious is Davis' weight. Obese players have a lot more health problem than slimmer athletic type. Landry's career is likely going to be longer than Davis's. 2. Playing alongside Yao, you want a faster guy, and preferably can hit an outside shot. I think Landry is a good pick at #31. I've been hoping that he can develop into a Chuck Hayes with a jumper.
Best part about Landry? He dunks the ball when he is near the basket. Dear Carl, Please teach the Rockets your dunking ways, it is a much better option then blowing the wide open feminine lay-up. Thanks!
can glen davis dunk. k, didn't think I saw a single dunk. You can't impress me with a series of layups. yet, I saw Hops dunking all over Sheetasota last night.
Because the Celtics have no depth at all and they play in the east. The Big 3 for the Celtic's create alot of opportunities for everyone else. Landry would be tairing it up if he were on the Celtic's as well. After watching both players in college, I think Landry is a much more effecient offensive player than Davis and a way better fit for the rockets.
I would say your exposure is very low. He sounds and plays intelligent. He is definitelty more intelligent than big baby but he is also more athletic. The Celtics gutted their team when they acquired Allen and KG leaving a great opportunity for big baby. If Landry had the same type of opportunity here you would be hearing rookie all srar comments. I would say the one disadvantage for Landry compared to Big Baby is he doesn't have that body or the ability to create space down low that Baby has. But he definitely has more range and a better workout and I think he is only going to get better. He reminds me so much of Boozer as a rookie. Yeah he is an inch shorter and few pounds thinner but he might be quicker and already is a better shooter than Boozer was then. I would also add if I had the celtics team I would probably choose big baby over Landry because they don't have Yao and they need his low post scoring. Landry's game is closer to KG's than Big Baby's. On the Rockets Landry is a better fit and once he learns how to play great d him and scola will take over the PF duties. So for the Rockets as of right now I would pick Landry and that is not even considering the Big Baby has alwways had a wait problem and only towards the end of his senior year did he show a desire to do something about it. I guess his agent told him if you want to even get drafted you'll have to shed a few pounds and he mostly is keeping it off. But wait till he signs a multiyear contract and he becomes FATBOY again.
Davis is clearly the better player. Landry was great last night, but that's one game against one of the worst teams in the league. Landry looks like a tweener to me. I know that he's taller than Chuck Hayes, but he plays smaller. Davis's ball-handling, ability to run the floor, and passing ability would make him a great fit in Adelman's offense. His strength makes him a threat to against good post players. I'm rooting for Landry, but anyone who wouldn't trade him for Big Baby straight up right now should have their head examined.
My gut thinks the same thing. This kid is a player. Unlike Hayes who lacks so many qualities but works so hard to make up for them, Landry has skills. The 2 reasons I wouldn't start Landry over has tomorrow is because while Landry is already a much better offensive player defensively he has a lot to learn about position and switching and slapping at balls consistently without fouling. Hayes has mastered the art of harrassing bigger players than him and gets the most out of his body but Landry has a great work ethic and will acquire the defensive skills in time. And the other reason is team chemistry was a problem early on with this team but they are now geling so well together that I would be reluctant to change anything more than spot minutes for Landry at this time. But the season is long and not that I would wish it on anyone but players do get sprains and tweaks that need time to heal and Hayes is foul prone. SO their should be opportunities for him.
it is meaningless right now whether we drafted landry or davis... they are not even developed yet to the NBA scene, maybe a year or two might tell... let;s hope neither of the two turn out to be disappointments like Novak or Head or VSpan
Weslinder, did you ever watch Landry play in college. I know I wouldn't trade him for Big Baby, so I guess I should have my head checked. Landry really plays small with all those dunks.
I eat up college basketball. I watch more college basketball than anyone I know who doesn't either work for a college team or sports media. The only conference that I don't watch all the time is the Pac-10 (other than UCLA). I watched Landry probably a dozen times while he was at Purdue, and Davis probably 15 times. Both were great college players. Landry gets the dunks because he's pretty athletic for a power forward. He's more athletic overall than Davis, and is a better leaper than Hayes. Those are undeniable. I don't dislike Landry. I think he was a good pick-up, and I hope he works out. But Davis is proving to be one of the best rookie big men in the league. (I'd put him 5th, behind Horford, Yi, Scola, and Sean Williams.)
not sure if someone responded to this already but before games, during a shootaround where it has been just landry and brooks, landry was shooting 3s and id say making good clip as well. my pick is landry, just from what ive seen on an nba court. ive seen good footwork from davis and good strength, his personality is a plus but personally with the nba getting quicker and faster, he dosnt excite me. landry has shown, in limited time, that hes quick, athletic, can shoot, can grab some rebounds, and what surprised me a bit last night, he can put the ball on the ground and take it in which leads to a good finisher around the basket. i take landry. i like his potential and his down-to-earth personality. funny you said this because i was thinking it during the game. boozer is probably stronger but landry has better range im sure.
