Reverse CRT: Florida Upstages Texas In History Class Teaching About Slavery

"Kids should not be taught that there is any silver lining to slavery." again, I do not believe that is the lesson plan

 

At best this can be said to be poorly done in the part of FL’s curriculum and as some even not DeSantis defense of this is poor. Yet because it’s “the leftists” who are criticizing it many seem to be determined to defend it.

 

I believe it is. That's what is meant by calling out how some slaves benefited from slavery.

 

From what I understand, DeSantis is a double lame duck. Florida has a 2 term limit. He will be out of office in 2026 because of that or earlier if he becomes President.

 

The defenders of it can't even see why it's troubling.

 

I do not believe you can say "that's what is meant" (where "that" refers to "there is . . . {a} silver lining to slavery") with any confidence.

I also think that saying "some slaves benefitted from slavery" rather misconstrues the statement in the standards.

I believe that the sentence in the standard is poorly written and should be rewritten, so as to prevent such misconstrual.

 

Someone mentioned that whitewashing history is done to avoid accountability. I think you can extend that as a core behavior to the modern era of Republicans and their supporters.

Instead of placing the blame right at the party responsible, let’s talk about Harris, the media, and/or just simply the left (the laziest of the three). Sometimes, it’s a bit more sophisticated in trying to convince others that holding high-level political officials responsible is somehow detrimental to the public, institution, or society. It’s a popular political game that is much more common today since Trump made it a standard tactic to deflect from his bad behaviors.

 

lol

 

I’m sure many realize that it’s problematic why they keep in qualifying their statements with “that slavery is bad but…”

Yes factually some slaves did gain skills yet those skills were not gained for their own agency and had no agency to exercise them. As such I’m not sure why that line in the curriculum was even added. If it isn’t actually for downplaying slavery it just seems odd to include it in a curriculum.

 

I disagree with you. There is no logical reason to include that sentence or that idea. Why put that slaves gained any benefit in the course of their enslavement?

There isn't a good answer to that question. Not even close. And that is what defeats your argument here.

 

I’m afraid they can see clearly why, which makes it more callous toward African Americans.

 

understood

I understand you feel that way

I think at least in the case of slaves who were taught to read and write, or purchased their freedom from their own efforts--those are significant enough stories to warrant teaching students about. I am not sure why one would want to exclude and/or otherwise censor those stories.

 

why?

 

You keep spouting off about the 191 units. It isn't about the units, but how they are going to be taught. Yeah they have already said Ocoee is going to be taught that blacks and whites were both violent. The overview of the what is going to be taught. That's like saying "We are going to teach about rhe Holocaust" then teaching it occurred because Jews were greedy and destroying rhe economy for Germans. So I don't care about the 191 topics. I care how they are taught.

 

@Sweet Lou 4 2 brought these up.

 

I don't think any person who suffered through slavery in the United States had a silly experience. I do think putting any focus the so-called "positive side" of the slavery exerience in K-12 classroom is ridiculous. It is like a support group of rape victims having to highlight the useful skills learned by the rape victim because they were raped.

And the fact that the only instance where this is done is the one where whites kept a 300 year institution of enslaving people from Africa going only highlights the ridiculousness.

 

I wish I could. I asked you because you indicated this policy makes sense to you. It makes no sense at all to me.

 

What policy?

 

I do not believe this is either the lesson plan and/or the intended take-home lesson of this material

 

Who talked about a "positive side" of slavery (other than you)?