So are you really "scared?" Do you lose sleep at night. Has your anxiety level gone up? Are you seeing a therapist about this? Do you go to the other side of the street when you see a Republican walking towards you? I think it's just something you like to say to bash the other side. I could just sit here and say the Dems don't give a crap about this country, that they wouldn't care if we became a weak military power and had to do what the UN said. It's such a goofy thing to say. Our leaders should not be such wimps.
andy -- let me see if i understand...you claim to be a fiscal conservative...but you're for universal health care?
MadMax -- let me see if I understand -- you claim to be a fiscal conservative...and you're for the biggest, most bloated "defense" budget in world history? C'mon. Cut the toenail off that monster, and we'd all have free health care and more education than we'd know what to do with. And our precious tax rate would remain unchanged.
that's the flip to the argument, for sure. we may have an inflated defense budget...i'm certainly not expert enough to say when enough is enough in spending on the military...I just don't know what dollar figure gets the job done. but i'm thinking the cost of insuring the entire freaking nation is not one welcomed by a fiscal conservative...that's a brand new expense altogether.
Robertson isn't a terrorist. He's a narrow-minded fool. What bugs me about Robertson is his belief that he knows better about how I should live my life than I do. It's a problem that both liberals and conservatives have when they forget that their opinions are no more valid or important than mine or yours or anyone else's. The sense of superiority that comes from that type of belief says much more about that person than it does about society.
HECK NO!!! I was making a sarcastic point about how scary Clinton was compared to some of the conservatives out there, Robertson being one of the worst.
I feel much better now... and, I believe him. __________________ Robertson Clarifies Supreme Court Remarks Thu Jul 17, 7:22 PM ET Add Politics - AP to My Yahoo! By SONJA BARISIC, Associated Press Writer VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson said Thursday he was not talking about any particular Supreme Court justices when he asked his television audience to pray that three liberal justices retire. "I don't care which three, I mean as long as the three conservatives stay on," Robertson told reporters after an event at Regent University, which he leads as president and chancellor. "There's six liberals, so it's up to the Lord. "I'm not telling God what to do," he added. "I'm just saying, 'Lord, help us.'" Robertson, as host of "The 700 Club" on his Christian Broadcasting Network, earlier this month began the 21-day "Operation Supreme Court Freedom." He is asking people to pray to God to change the court after its 6-3 decision in June that decriminalized sodomy. Robertson said in a letter posted on CBN's Web site that the ruling "has opened the door to homosexual marriage, bigamy, legalized prostitution and even incest." Robertson's letter did not identify anyone, but appeared to refer to specific justices, saying: "One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer, and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?" Justice John Paul Stevens (news - web sites) was born in 1920 and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (news - web sites) had colon cancer surgery in 1999. The reference to the third jurist was unclear.
"I'm not telling God what to do," he added. "I'm just saying, 'Lord, help us.'" IOW, "I know I am not supposed to question your will, God, but dang it do what I want and not what you want!!!"
The Bible says that God wants you to bring your concerns and your desires to Him. But ultimately, as Jesus said in the Lord's Prayer, "Thy will be done." I always like reading David's prayers in Psalms...very truthful...very vengeful...I think there's a way in which bringing out those things to God is good...and it can lead to a deeper peace later.
I respectfully disagree. If there's a God (and none of us REALLY knows for sure), I doubt He'd want us to kill, hate and oppress some people so that other people will be at peace in the future. We're all God's children, and there are no favorites. I mean, if our parents can love us unconditionally, wouldn't an all-powerful, all-knowing God? Peace begins with you and with me. It's not something available only in the future, or in some abstract dimension. It's available right now. That's why it's so disheartening to see such influential "religious" people like Pat Robertson and Billy Graham use religion to justify hate. Hate is never justified.
I would rather that people brought up their vengeful desires to God rather than acting on them, but using a nationally televised broadcast to ask your "flock" to pray for the removal of Supremes is way, WAY over the top. Pat appears to have gone plumb loco and nobody has decided to let him in on it.
I think you misunderstood my post. David's prayers for vengeance weren't ultimately answered. He expressed frustration with that...but ultimately, came to realize that God's will was greater than his own. God didn't exact judgment on David's enemies, best we can tell from David's prayers in Psalms. I think being very forthright and honest with God in prayer...even if you're very angry...is a good thing. I think He has a way of moving you past that. In the wake of 9/11, I felt awful rage. I was very honest in my own prayer life with God about it...it changed for me. I found myself, ultimately, praying for OBL. That's not a pat on my back, because I give myself ZERO credit for it. It takes a while to work through real emotions...and as a Christian, I believe prayer to God is a vessel for that.
i TOTALLY agree!! again...I've been pretty outspoken here and elsewhere about my concerns with Pat. My biggest concern is his take that he had a prophetic vision about 9/11 and that he saw it as judgment....said he saw it, but he got the dates wrong, or something to that effect. Of course, he only tells us that after the fact. Isaiah, Elijah or Jonah, he is not! If it's true prophecy from God, I don't think you "get the dates wrong." And I think if it's true prophecy, you have a duty to talk about it BEFORE it happens!!!
if you're truly a centrist, you'll find there's a lot we agree on. i just have very strong opinions on a few issues. one of which we've already gone round and round over.
Money and Power. Power and Money. That is what it is all about. Pat Robertson. Osama Bin Laden. Meir Kahane. David Koresh. I believe in god but I also feel that the institution will inherantly be corrupted by man and man's greed. That is why I like limited church AND limited government.
