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Retail Employees Protesting Black Friday

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. Major

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    This is a good example. NFL and NBA routinely complain about having to work on Christmas.
     
  2. CourtOfDreams

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    Wow, we are a nation of crybabies. I worked for Circuit City back when I was in highschool, when they hired me on thet explained BF and everything that went along with it. When you get hired they tell you "Be prepared to work BF" Its not like BestBuy is making them work on Thanksgiving, (and even if they did, so what its just another day) pissing on there turkey and just got a feel on grandma. They are letting people work and make money in a job that the employee selected to work at knowing that they would work bad hours one day out of 365....

    In the industry I am in I have to work Thanksgiving night, day after Thanksgiving, maybe Xmas day dont know yet and NYD.

    They are just days at the end of the week, you can spend time with friends and family whenever you need to, you don't need a special day to do it...

    I'm done with my rant...
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    I also don't go to stores or restaurants on Christmas or Thanksgiving or even Black Friday. I also don't get my hair cut on Mondays. I want to discourage businesses from feeling they have to work on those days. But, I think you are glossing over an important difference between emergency services and normal daily services. Even Pharisees observing the Sabbath can do work in an emergency.
     
  4. Major

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    I'm curious if the "don't complain" people ever complain about anything in their jobs? Or do you just accept anything your employer does and say "well, at least I have a job!" Is your position that employers can do whatever they want to you and you should just take it with no complaints?

    Does this apply to life in general too? Spouse cheats on you, you get robbed, someone harasses your kid, do you say "well, at least I'm alive" and just accept it and move on?
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Then I will take repairmen out of my question and stick to gassing up the car, travelling, movies, sporting events and other "non-essential" services.

    I am curious as to why you don't want a barber working on Monday.
     
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    I'm saying don't complain about things that you knew you would have to do when you accepted a job in a certain industry/field.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    We're a nation of people who are apparently won't stand up for themselves, and do nothing but snipe and complain when other people do.

    The only crybaby here is you, because your complaining about someone else complaining is a hell of a lot less justified.

    You have no idea if these people were told this or not.

    There is no "letting them" here. Otherwise, what the hell is the issue if it's voluntary? This is people being forced to work on a federal holiday. I think it's stupid and excessive, and I hope those employees are either granted the day off or quit and are able to find new employment. And as a show of solidarity, I'll try to avoid the businesses that practice this policy.
     
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    I complain. I might mention something on Facebook or on here, or to my wife, but I try really hard to make my bosses happy. I appreciate my paychecks, and want bigger ones in my future. I don't fault people for not wanting to work, but if its your job, you do it, or find a new one.
     
  10. bobrek

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    Not sure if I am one of the ones this is directed to, but I have absolutely no problem with these folks complaining about having to work the day after Thanksgiving.

    I also have no problems with an employee complaining to their boss if he/she asks them to do a particular task unless it is one that they knew they would be asked to do prior to accepting their job - then they shouldn't complain. As to requests over and above their perceived responsibilities (as long as they are reasonable) - again, if they want to complain, fine, they just need to be willing to accept the consequences of that decision.

    So now you are comparing a robbery or adultery to someone having to go in early on the day after Thanksgiving to work the cash register at Target?
     
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    You pick your battles. At my job, we have quarterly board meetings. It would be foolish of me to try to take a half day on a board meeting day.

    Similarly, it's foolish for a retail employee to complain about working a few extra hours on the biggest shopping day of the year.
     
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    Donny if they don't want to work it, they don't have to. Just don't go in, find another job that has the benefits and days you wanna work.
     
  14. bobrek

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    The day after Thanksgiving is not a federal holiday.
     
  15. Major

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    Black Friday is normally a Friday thing... people aren't really complaining about that. This year, many stores are opening Thursday evening - sometimes as early at 8pm - which means that these people are, for the first time, being asked to work on Thanksgiving. They didn't know they would have to do that when they accepted the job, because the job has never asked that before.

    But besides that, so you really think people shouldn't complain about any aspect of their job as long as they knew about it going in? Something tells me that's a standard that few people, if any, live up to. I'm pretty sure everyone complains about various aspects of their job, despite knowing about it going in.

    Do you think medical residents don't complain about 24 hour shifts? Bartenders don't complain about having to deal with drunk people? Politicians don't complain about angry constitutents? Waiters don't complain about rude customers? Just because you take a job doesn't mean you're going to be happy with every aspect of it. These people are just trying to do something about it.
     
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    Mind you, that's just when the doors open... so, the employees will have to be there hours beforehand.

    And in the case of Wal-Mart, they'll be open all day Thanksgiving.
     
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    How do you know they are Christians and care about working on Christmas? Or that they even care about American cultural holidays? Many Asian and Indian restaurants etc are still open those days. They would probably appreciate your business.
     
  18. Major

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    And these people are signing an online petition. I don't see any of them saying they are not going to work the required shifts.

    Do you also feel that people that worked in unsafe factory conditions 100 years ago should never have complained and stood up for themselves to try to improve their working conditions? Just accept it and make the boss happy, or look for another job?
     
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    Which big box retailers are requiring a number of employees to start work at 4:00 PM?
     
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    Interesting that the three stores they cited (Best Buy, Kohls and Target) are all opening at midnight.

    The main big box petitioners are from Target and Best Buy.
     

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