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Republicans raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion while kicking millions off insurance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. HP3

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    @Space Ghost Does it feel good to you knowing that your vote will kill people?
     
  2. Andre0087

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    IMO the proposed court bond provision and 10 year state AI moratorium should not be able to pass the Senate using budget reconciliation. Time will tell as always...
     
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  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Your dependents or spouse can get your stocks as well, or you can will them to whoever you want, or to charity. So, this would function just as much as "life insurance" as social security does, only more flexibly.
    Alternative facts, LOL. I linked you to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. You also don't understand social security, because it is not a forced savings for retirement. It is explicitly a tax, you explicitly do not receive the money that you put in back, none of what you said is actually true. The government could have set it up as a forced retirement system, but they wanted to start paying benefits out to people that had not put in the years of payments. In order to do so, they had to have current workers pay for the already retired. As a result, the entire system is set up to require new investors to pay out the earlier members (aka a Ponzi scheme). The reason there is a shortfall is explained in the articles I linked for you, and it is because the calculations are based on having far more workers paying in per retiree than there are now. The population is aging and people are living longer. There are no longer enough new people being forced into the Ponzi scheme. The ratios are no longer sufficient for the scheme to work.

    99% of people would have been better off if they had been forced to invest their money into an S&P 500 fund instead of paying social security tax and receiving social security benefits. That is per a study done by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (not exactly a right-wing nut job source).
     
  4. astros123

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    @GOATuve lol you never got this cultist to agree with me on a bet. Imagine talking **** and telling anyone that you're willing to wager the deficit will be smaller in 2 years and when someone takes you on the bet you run away like a chicken after YOU proposed it.

    What a little b****
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    I feel so good that I'm legit going to vote Trump in 2028.
     
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    Not in the same way. If I died at 22, my wife and son would have received over $3K a month until he turned 18 (adjusted annually for inflation), which would dwarf my investment. Having had clients depend on this money tells me all I need to know about how vital it is and how an investment account would not have been better.
     
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  7. astros123

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    Keep pretending you're a "libertarian" when in reality you're just another braindead cultist who gets his news from Twitter
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Irrelevant - they had to start the system from 0, gonna take some people paying in.

    it is called a tax, but it is a retirement benefit.

    Again, if you want to give people a chance to invest some of that, then I am all for it....but the issue isn't the SS system itself it is getting Congress' grubby hands off of it......remove any access to it at all.

    DD
     
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  9. Andre0087

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    They're both a couple of dumbasses, it's one thing to troll but they meet the literal definition of blind stupidity and neither can stay on a thread topic if their life depended on it. Two walking and talking ads for why birth control should never be banned.
     
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  10. HP3

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    Im sure if you would if you could you morally bankrupt human being.
     
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  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    An investment account and a cheap life insurance policy would have been better. As a 22-year-old in excellent health in Houston with a wife and child, one could get a 1.35M policy for 20 years at a cost of about $43 per month. That would provide twice as much as the survivor benefits of social security, and when you didn't die, would leave you in a much better position in retirement.
     
  12. astros123

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    Theyre full of **** cuz the cult demands it. The WH has no problem standing on stage and lying to your face when its easily proven to be false



    They just lie to your faces without any shame and his cultists eat it up like the good cultists they want them to be @Space Ghost @raining threes
     
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    we truly live in a post-truth society

    “the largest deficit reduction in nearly 30 years”

    Idk how u can just go through life lying like this with absolutely zero shame…it’s pathological with all of them

    These are the types of people who will lie about everyday mundane things and you’ll be thinking “why do u even feel the need to lie about something like that?”

    they should just let this bill pass and have this country FAFO…Trump will piss in a mindless drone’s face and they’ll tell u the rain feels kinda warm

    they like to be humiliated, stepped on, and lied to
     
  14. astros123

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    This is the issue. How can democrats compete with a party that just lies 24/7 non stop? Theyre adding 5 trillion to the debt but are running around claiming its a deficit reduction bill. You can't compete when one side has no problem cheating non stop.

     
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    If you dont feel this way then dont let the door hit you in the azz on the way to your new country. There's more opportunity in this country than anywhere in the world.
     
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    We're going to find out, even though Roy made the bill weaker. He needs to be primaried.
     
  17. raining threes

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    Who's died?
     
  18. Andre0087

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    Your brain cells…
     
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    Taken from Reddit:
    One of the most overlooked but potentially devastating parts of the House GOP’s new “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” is how it overhauls federal student loans. If passed as written, it would eliminate subsidized loans entirely, meaning students would start accruing interest from day one, even while still in school. Right now, subsidized loans don’t rack up interest until after graduation or during deferments, offering some relief to low- and middle-income students.

    On top of that, loan forgiveness under income-driven repayment plans would shift from 20–25 years to 30 years. That’s a five- to ten-year increase in repayment time—meaning more interest paid over time, and a longer financial burden into middle age.

    The bill also removes key protections like unemployment and economic hardship deferments, making it harder to pause payments if you lose your job or face financial strain.

    They want as many Americans earning close to minimum wage as possible to keep them uneducated and poor...desperate for any low-paying **** job. The MAGA base in a nutshell.
     
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  20. raining threes

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    That's right nobody has died and people ( even illegals) can get medical care. If a person is sick or injured they can get help at any ER. But carry on.
     

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