Unfortunately... People vote blindly for party and not the individual... That's the entire issue across the board... T_Man
This is his second piece on why he's voting for Harris. Remember, he's as conservative as it gets. He's an evangelical, 10/10 pro-life conservative, and for the first time in his life, he's voting for the Democratic candidate for POTUS. Opinion | David French on the Pro-Life Case for Kamala Harris - The New York Times (nytimes.com) But I am, for the first time in my adult life, going to vote for a Democrat for president in 2024. I’m going to vote for Kamala Harris. Some people say I can’t vote for Kamala Harris because I’m pro-life and a Christian. But in fact, I believe Donald Trump is harming the pro-life movement in a profound way. I’m often asked if I’m still conservative. The answer is I’m voting against Trump precisely because I’m conservative.
Interesting stat and good to see a concerted effort here for Harris. Could Evangelicals Give Kamala an Edge? Inside the Biblical Pitch and Push for Harris | CBN News Since Kamala Harris stepped in to become the Democrat nominee for president, she's enjoyed a wave of positive poll numbers and huge crowds at rallies. If she's to carry that momentum into the fall, however, tapping into the Christian vote could potentially take her to the White House. As vice president, she's spoken about how the Bible informs her worldview. "The Bible teaches us so much about what we must do to be dutiful," she told those gathered at the National Baptist Convention nearly two years ago. "Understanding we have a duty to our God and to one another." Raised as a Baptist in the San Francisco Bay area, Harris' faith is rooted in what is commonly known as the 'Social Justice Gospel.' This human rights approach centers more on Jesus' teaching of compassion for those less fortunate rather than a fundamentalist viewpoint. The quest to promote that message to Christian voters is well underway. The group Evangelicals For Harris hosted a Zoom call earlier this month that drew tens of thousands, with the leader of the session exclaiming, "Vice President Kamala Harris is a fellow Christian." The group's founder is Reverend Jim Ball, a former head of a Christian environmental organization. He tells CBN News the plan is to reach beyond a progressive audience. "We're trying to reach out to as many conservative folks as we can," Reverend Ball says. "We try to reach out to websites that are highly visited by Trump supporters, by so-called MAGA Republicans." When asked if he thinks there's an opportunity to attract some of them, he responds emphatically, "We do." The group's 200,000 members are growing daily, and the effort is focused mainly in key swing states. They're planning to spend more than one million dollars on video ads targeting specific Christian households on places like YouTube, Hulu, Apple TV, Google, Facebook and other spaces. Their first ad went after Donald Trump, using clips of him in the past saying he doesn't bring God into the picture when asking for forgiveness. While taking on Trump could be a tall order, they believe there's an opening. According to Pew Research, among Donald Trump's base of white evangelical Protestant voters, 37 percent see Trump as a "great" president and 37% say a good one. The window of opportunity may be the fact that 9 percent consider him average, 6 percent poor and 10 percent say terrible. Those three categories total 25 percent of conservative evangelicals who could potentially be difference makers. That's what happened for Barack Obama in 2008 when he received 26% of this key group and won. It happened again in 2020, as Joe Biden received 24% and also won. However, in 2016, Hillary Clinton lost after receiving only 16% support from conservative evangelical voters. The conventional wisdom suggests that if Kamala Harris can get over 20% or more of Trump's evangelical base, she's in business. "We're hoping that we'll have an historic amount this time, so we'll see," Reverend Ball tells CBN News. Could they potentially reach Obama levels of support? "Yes, Obama levels, that's right so we're hoping for that," Ball says. ...
I didn't see all of the Republican speakers at the DNC but been impressed with them and think it was a good move to bring them. I don't think they will win over many Republicans but think they make a difference with independents.
Also unless something really big happens their future as Republican officeholders is dead. It's too bad as Geoff Duncan and Adam Kinzinger certainly seem like they could go far politically. I don't know if they could win as Democrats though.
I think at this point 95% of the folks who are diehard Republicans are on the Trump train. But there are many who were Republicans but had tuned out and were uncomfortable with voting for any Democrat. There are also independent voters. The simple fact that these former Republicans and even Trump believers now feel the need to support a Democrat can help those voters in their decision making. It helps that Democrats have shown a willingness to work with them and accept them in this battle.
White House lawyers who advised Reagan, Bush endorse Harris over Trump in 2024 showdown | Fox News FIRST ON FOX: A dozen Republican White House lawyers who served in the administrations of then-Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush are endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris in her race against GOP nominee former President Donald Trump. "We endorse Kamala Harris and support her election as President because we believe that returning former President Trump to office would threaten American democracy and undermine the rule of law in our country," the lawyers wrote in a letter that the signatories shared first with Fox News Digital. The letter was released on Friday, the day after Harris delivered her nomination acceptance speech in the culminating moment of the Democratic National Convention, which was held in Chicago. The signatories added that "we urge all patriotic Republicans, former Republicans, conservative and center-right citizens, and independent voters to place love of country above party and ideology and join us in supporting Kamala Harris." The list includes Michael Luttig, the prominent right-of-center legal scholar and retired federal appeals court judge who previously served as assistant counsel to the president in the Reagan White House. Luttig made headlines at the start of the week by endorsing Harris as the Democrats' convention kicked off. The letter notes, "Donald Trump’s own Vice President and multiple members of his Administration and White House Staff at the most senior levels – as well as former Republican nominees for President and Vice President – have already declined to endorse his reelection." Those signing the letter pointed to what they called "the profound risks presented by his [Trump's] potential return to public office. Indeed, Trump’s own Attorney General and National Security Adviser have said unequivocally that Donald Trump is unfit for office, dangerous, and detached from reality." ... The list of signatories to the letter, besides Luttig, includes (in alphabetical order) John B. Bellinger III, Senior Associate Counsel to the President and Legal Adviser to the NSC under George W. Bush, Phillip D. Brady, Deputy Counsel to the President under Reagan, Benedict S. Cohen, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan, Peter D. Keisler, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan, and Robert M. Kruger, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan. Also included are John M. Mitnick, Associate Counsel to the President and Deputy Counsel, White House Homeland Security Council under George W. Bush, Alan Charles Raul, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan and General Counsel, OMB under Reagan and George H.W. Bush, Nicholas Rostow, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and Legal Adviser to the NSC under Reagan and George H.W. Bush, Peter J. Rusthoven, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan, David B. Waller, Senior Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan, and Wendell L. Willkie II, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan.
Lifelong Missouri Republican: Why I’m voting Kamala Harris | Kansas City Star I’m a Missouri grandma and a lifelong Republican. Here’s why I’m voting Kamala Harris As a conservative woman born and raised in Missouri, I have always been proud to call myself a Republican. Our party has traditionally stood for values I hold dear: limited government, personal responsibility, strong national defense and respect for individual liberties. However, this election, I am making a choice that might surprise many of my fellow Republicans: I am voting for Kamala Harris. Recently, a group called Republicans for Harris announced their support for the Harris’ presidential campaign, citing the urgent need to protect our democracy from the threat posed by Donald Trump. Their stance resonates deeply with me. As someone who loves Missouri and has cherished our state’s values of decency and integrity, I feel compelled to stand up for what is right, even if it means crossing party lines. Initially, many of us believed Trump’s unconventional style would shake up the establishment in a beneficial way. But over the years, it has become clear that his disregard for democracy and decency is a threat to the very fabric of our country. ...
Conservative commentator Michael Medved says he’ll likely vote for VP Harris https://mynorthwest.com/3980306/con...l-medved-says-hell-likely-vote-for-vp-harris/ Nationally recognized conservative commentator Michael Medved says he will likely vote for Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris in November. Appearing on The Gee & Ursula Show on KIRO Newsradio, Medved said, when asked if he would vote for Harris, “I’m sort of reluctant to say it, but it’s obvious that that unless something comes out in the campaign that is very different from what was presented last night, I think that’s the right decision.” Medved said that although the Democratic National Convention (DNC) wasn’t perfect, it was a home run. “I think this was an epically well-arranged, well-presented convention because part of what they’re doing is trying to identify as the party of joy, the party of positivity,” Medved explained. “One of the things that the Democrats did at their convention was they recaptured the flag. I can’t think of any democratic event that has been so nakedly patriotic, with one person after another coming up and talking about how I love this country, how this is the greatest country in the world.” Medved criticizes Trump policies “I’m excited in the other way, I dread them. And the one that comes to mind immediately is this idea of a tariff, a tariff of 10% on everything,” Medved explained. “He’s now said he wants to put a tariff of 60% on Chinese goods. And this is not money that the company or the other country is supposed to pay. It’s money that is going to be saddled for American consumers. That’s who pays for these tariffs.” Medved also does not agree with Trump’s appraoch to NATO. “For President Trump to say that he doesn’t care, let’s let Vladimir Putin do anything the hell he wants to NATO allies is outrageous.” Host Ursula Reutin asked, “But what do you say to people who say, You know what? My bank account was better under Trump. That’s why I’m going to vote for him.” “The one thing about your individual bank account that may have been true, but the question is the direction that we’re going now and the direction we go in the future,” Medved said. “This is an area where both candidates are lacking. Neither Trump nor Harris has talked meaningfully about doing something about the national debt and about the unbalanced budget, but at least on the Harris side, you have the idea that you’re not going to immediately do an across the board major tax cut.” Harris spoke about a tax cut for 100 million people, which refers to the people who are already paying taxes. Medved said, “There are a lot of Americans who don’t pay taxes because they don’t earn enough to pay federal income taxes. And again, that’s very different from President Trump, talking about increasing taxes on everybody, which is what a tariff would do.”
A total of 238 former staffers of Bush, McCain and Romney pledged support for Harris. Around 80 more than in 2020. Good for them. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-mccain-romney-trump-harris-2024/74947380007/
Historically, Trump underperforms with pollsters, presumably because people want to be private in their support for him. But I wonder if that's changed over the last few years. People more tie Trump to their identity and more proudly support him. Meanwhile, some half-ashamed, less-into-Trump GOP members might not answer pollsters honestly but then, in the privacy of the voting booth, say "hell no I ain't voting for Il Cheeto Duce again." Maybe just wishful thinking on my part, but I do wonder. EDIT: I do think, if he clearly loses in November, you will see a big, public shift away from him in, for instance, the GOP Senate. The "hold our nose" crowd will be done and will be talking about moving on, versus helping him bellyache and start another coup attempt. That's still a huge "if" though.
It does feel that way, especially women who aren't proudly saying to their husbands that they are voting against orangtos. And more recently, polls fail to properly capture women (or even men) who are voting Democratic due to the abortion issue. Maybe they cancel each other out. Who knows. The Harris campaign is taking the right approach - we are the underdog. No room for complacency.
Conservatives are in general not happy with how Trump treats people - don't like that he has children with three women - that he sleeps with prostitutes - that violates ethical codes. However - they have really only one other choice in the current environment and that is the Democrats - who they do not like from a policy perspective. So - they either vote for Trump because of his policies or they let the Democrats and their policies rule. Over time some conservatives have become numb to Trump's antics - but many still don't think he is a good man or person, but they know he delivered the SCOTUS to them, he passed tax cuts and he stymies the Democrats.
This thread gives me, a recovering Republican, hope. If Harris wins, maybe the GOP will finally be forced to completely reboot itself. I thought that would happen after Jan 6th....it's still inconceivable to me that it didn't. But yes, suffice to say I will be voting Harris (and a straight Democratic ticket for the 3rd POTUS election in a row) partly to save the GOP from itself. But mostly because I'm a single issue voter. And that single issue is Jan 6th.
In 2022 midterms and in several Special elections since then polling seems to be under counting Democrat votes. I’m not going to guarantee that is the case now and I’m going to say for sure Harris will wins. I don’t think though Trump supporters have any good reason to be comfortable with polls.
That is a Faustian bargain and given that MAGA cost them the badly in the last three elections the benefit of that bargain might’ve long reached its limit
Not many alternatives rn. A growing bloc of career-less young men with basic or no college education are leaning increasingly Republican as much as women are flocking to the Dem party built on reproductive rights and college educated white collar policies. You might see an Elon mutant or another rat king emerging from Twitter that's less obvious on the bigotry but more focused onto a hypermasculine platform of order and "values". There's just too much dark money from outside sources to think we'll have a new normal, and our economic situation creates extremes that opposition parties can slide into when voters kick out incumbents. Vance can grasp what's coming from the numbers with his pathetic insults catered for them, but he's definitely not one of them.
I totally get this; I was ready to take bets on Jan 7th that the gop would have shunned trump and maga after what happened, and I was literally shocked when they all started bending the knee less than a week after it happened and when Mcarthy went to MAL to kiss the ring I knew I would not vote gop again until the extremism stopped........................I will vote Harris as my vote against trump and maga
Very possible. They will point to the tax cuts and the SCOTUS - but as is often the case, it is hard to know how successful something really is in politics until down the road awhile.