Nothing general about it. That was a very long list of names that Rachel Maddow read off, and it wasn't exhaustive. It included Boehner and Hutchison. And every single quote is well documented. Don't give me that boilerplate "it applies to both sides" stuff. Show me where a majority of democratic lawmakers have simultaneously condemned a bill and praised its benefits to their local districts. Again: Most Republican congressmen are two-faced hypocrites.
Who is not a turd in the bucket? Does every political commentator have zero credibility? Political commentary is, in many ways, like sports commentary. There are people who are paid to have opinions and to express/convince others of those opinions. Those people will invariably be selective with the facts they use and shape the story in a way that fits their argument. It is not uncommon for false statements be made, intentionally or unintentionally. Are your standards so lofty that all such people belong in the same turd bucket? Or is it, as I suspect, just the people who's politics you don't share that belong there? The latter is a convenient position to hold for the close-minded, for obvious reasons.
no matter how you feel about their views, i think one has to admit that maddow and olberman are pretty talented. i never met anyone who didn't like him on espn and I love that he's doing football highlights on NBC
now we're getting somewhere. It's all good Landlord, no matter what most think, we all want what's best for the country. sorry, gotta go! Olbermann's on
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=181803 or Moyers own site: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01082010/profile.html
I'd just like to add that love or hate her, she seems to be one of the few sincere commentators out there. Everyone of course is putting on a show and trying to get ratings, but she doesn't pretend to be some balanced perfectionist. She's a progressive and bashes Republicans on their lies and inconsistencies and also bashes the Democrats when they're not being liberal enough. Point is, I think she's one of the few normal ones. When she first got her show, she came onto Morning Joe (96% Conservative Rating while he was in Congress or something crazy high like that) and they got along great. It's well documented that Joe Scarbarough and Olbermann have had heated disputes, and Joe put it very well when he stated that Maddow's show was good because you can make reasoned intellectual arguments for or against her positions and it's not some spectacle shouting match. BTW, Morning Joe generally has some decent insight and legit discussion on there. It's sad that it loses out to the fluff of the other networks.
Turn the clock back a few years and exchange every "Republican" for "Democrat" and every "liberal" for "conservative" and every "left wing" for "right wing" and it rings just as true...
I was here a few years ago, and the it wasn't just as true. Certainly the Democratic congressmen didn't behave like the Republicans are. The posters didn't either. The Democratic talking points back then were articles with information about why the Iraq war was bad, and torture was bad, and we need to protect our rights. The GOP side a few years ago was claiming the left was unpatriotic, or worse... actual supporters of Osama Bin Laden, and Saddam.
who posted that video of Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and the whole lot of them espousing the evils of Saddam and al quaeda. Let's take Hillary as an example: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0FwdNLlC9PM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0FwdNLlC9PM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
What does that have to do with anything. Nobody thought Saddam was a great guy. That was never the issue. The issue was your political comrades claiming liberals believed he was a great guy. For that matter the left on this bbs has been critical of any politician from either party that was hawkish in regards to Iraq(the same isn't true of Afghanistan.)
I realize that we are talking about something with kind of undefined boundaries in time and space but don't Hillary's democratic talking points as seen on the video contradict what you assert the democratic talking points were in your own post? I'm not aware of conservatives ever claiming that Saddam was a "great guy." Can you provide the proverbial link that proves this to be a "Republican" problem?
