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Republicans and the Stimulus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. Landlord Landry

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    there are also articles that shows she WAS lying on MTP.

    apologies are fine, but limbaugh/hannity/ilk apologize for their mistakes as well.

    imo she is just another turd in the bucket and they all stink. They all have an agenda and truthful reporting often comes at the expense of the bigger goal.

    carry on.
     
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  2. SunsRocketsfan

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    you can say that about the democrats too. hell you can say that about most politicians...
    when will people realize its not about republicans or democrats.
    This blame game really has to stop..Both parties are out of control with their spending and programs.

    I am neither a republican or a democrat. I am a fiscal conservative and just believe in personal responsibility. Don't spend what you don't have. Don't keep relying on the Govt to provide because the Govt has nothing to Provide. In order to provide they have to take from someone else.

    Anyways this whole Democrats are morons and out of control (some are) and Republicans are hypocrites and just cause problems (some do) is getting us no where. Sadly it's the way things are and will continue to be.
     
  3. JeopardE

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    ... And this thread has suddenly turned into a perfect microcosm of American politics today.

    Liberal makes cogent points in favor of current US government policy and exposes right wing fallacies.

    Republicans gather up arms, completely ignore the message that was delivered, and take square aim at the messenger.

    Liberals are forced to defend liberal commentator against conservative attacks, ad hominem and what not.

    Back and forth.

    Wait, wasn't this thread supposed to be about Republican congressmen being two-faced about their support for the stimulus bill? Looks like the message was lost back in the middle of page one. Obstructionism at its finest.
     
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  4. SunsRocketsfan

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    Olbermann and Maddow are definitely proven liars and can stretch the truth quite far.

    The Republicans on fox like Hannity are just what they are.. Republicans.. and he makes it known he is a Republican so he is going to have Republican views. But at least or not that I know of Hannity hasnt made up NEWS.
     
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    Irrelevant.

    The point is: Most Republican congressmen are two-faced hypocrites. Prove otherwise or shut up. Shooting the messenger does nothing to change this.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    It's the way the forum is run, if you don't like it, you don't have to stay.
     
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    http://www.newshounds.us/hannity/
     
  8. Landlord Landry

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    he has. Hannity is probably one of the worst 'reporters' of the 'news'.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Here are some print examples of Republicans trashing the stimulus while trying to take credit for it, and talking about how good of a policy it is.

     
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    I don't watch her either unless a video is posted in this forum as I believe that 24 hour news channels have severely degraded journalism.

    Out of morbid curiosity, can you actually point out any lies by Maddow?

    EDIT: Never mind, asked, answered, and debunked already.
     
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    Hannity is totally full of ****.

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  12. FranchiseBlade

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    He kind of did. I pointed out that she apologized for some of them which leads me to believe that she wasn't intentionally lying, and others are disputed, with articles pointing out that she was accurate and the articles which claim she lied were the ones lying.

    So on those I would believe people see thing different ways, not that she's intentionally misleading at all.

    I think any news channel will have its shares of mistakes. How they handle htose mistakes is what says something about the organizations involved. Maddow has never(that I've seen) failed to own up and apologize when she's been wrong.

    I've seen Hannity and O'reilly do both. Sometimes they will apologize and sometimes they won't.
     
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    yeah and I don't hannity ever apologized or corrected his assertion which i posted above that Obama claimed that America is a muslim nation.
     
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    I replied to a post about drinking beer with someone. Again, deal with it, Mr. Volunteer Clutchfans Forum Police Officer.
     
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  15. FranchiseBlade

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    I have
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    Does anyone see this Hannity clip as anything but a bold-faced lie?
     
  17. Landlord Landry

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    not really.
     
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    and this is where I disagree, a 10 minute google search would have shown that Craig Shirley had nothing to do with grassfire at the time of her 'story'. She either has an extremely incompetent staff or (more likely) she was bold faced lying.

    as much as I despise limbaugh(mostly for doing the same crap as Maddow) that MLK blast was weak sauce.
     
  19. SunsRocketsfan

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    that is a very general statement you just made.. Why dont you prove how most republican congressmen are two faced liars since you are the one making the claim. You prove otherwise or shutup. do you happen to even know any Republican congressmen at all?

    Also again if you want to use some generic term or generic argument it can be applied to both sides. I can simply say most democratic congressmen are two face liars.. prove otherwise or shutup and it has just as much validity as yours.

    It's just politics..
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    It was proven in the first clip of this thread.
     

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