Republican National Convention Thread (September 1-4, 2008)

I haven't seen his speech yet but it wouldn't surprise me. Ron Paul has a certain element of charm when he speaks. He's obviously very intelligent, articulate and passionate about his beliefs. Some of what he says makes sense. Some of what he says is borderline crazy.

You'll listen to a speech of his and catch yourself flirting with some sort of "I like this guy" feeling until you start really thinking about his radical positions on key issues. Well, that's just me. Can't speak for the rest of you but that's the vibe I get.

 

how is lieberman gonna fully endorse palin when he disagrees with her on basically everything and only met her today?

oh yea, him and mccain are the same: old and have poor judgment. they can know how great a person is by one single meeting

 

His speech was very long and he did seem to ramble a bit at times but overall he made his points very well and had a good sense of timing. His banter with the crowd was great too as compared to watching Lieberman step on applause lines. I don't agree with several of Ron Paul's positions but this was a great speech that made a great case for his positions and definately made you think.

 

I saw Lynn Swann if that makes a difference.

 

Thanks glynch. I really appreciate it.

 

If I was an independent or undecided voter, here is what I'd be looking to get out of the RNC.

Both sides agree that we are worse off now than we were 8 years ago. McCain even says so in one of his TV ads. The Democrats harped on the fact that McCain voted with President Bush 90-95% of the time and argued, convincingly, that McCain was "more of the same" and how McCain's presidency would essentially be a continuation of the Bush administration. Obama laid out what he means by "change" and explained what he'd do differently than Bush if elected.

So the burden is on McCain and the Republicans to prove why McCain is not another Bush and why his policies are not "more of the same". You can't say that we're worse off than we were 8 years ago while continuing to uphold the policies of the President during that period. I want to see what makes McCain and his policies different from W. Like Obama is running on "change", John McCain is now running on "reform". So I want to know what "reform" is. Aside from taking on earmarks, I don't know what "reform" means.

Tonight didn't answer any of those questions. Tonight did nothing except to rally the conservative base. That won't win undecideds and it won't help to win the election. But honestly, if those answers are forthcoming, I don't expect them to come until McCain's speech on Thursday.

Obama explained what "change" was in his acceptance speech. I look forward to hearing what McCain's "reform" is when he makes his.

 

This experience (which wasn't working) argument to reform pivot will be fun to watch.

 

obama's camp def taking the high road. larry king just asked a sr adviser of the camp about palin and he just said it's not about her, it's about mccain.

 

That's the smart route to take. They learned from Hillary and the way the media perceives her that its entirely possible to be too aggressive against a woman thus generating sympathy for her. We saw the kind of boosts Hillary got at certain times during her campaign from this treatment. New Hampshire, especially.

If you play attack dog against Palin using primarily personal (non-political) issues as your weapons you're going to play right into the GOP's hands. Especially with her speech due tomorrow. If she hits it out of the park expect a big boost for the McCain ticket and for her "perseverance" throughout this ordeal.

 

BTW Joe Lieberman should be ashamed about some of the outright lies he said about Obama tonight.

 

Great points baller. Obama's got the right idea. Unfortunately it looks like he is going to have the same problem that Kerry did in 04 and that is keeping the collective mouths of his voting base from igniting the possible monster that is the republican base.

62,040,610 is a number that shouldn't have ever happened yet it did in the most impossible of conditions. In 04 you couldn't turn around and not be demonized if you were a republican. There was no pause in the onslaught against them and there was no safe haven and you basically pissed them off and insulted them into action.

In 2006 this didn't happen and you won and now here comes the 2008 election and here come the 2004 antics that lost you probably the most easily winnable election that I can remember. There is no way Bush should have been reelected and he was and if things keep going the way there are right now Obama has a better than average chance of sharing the same fate as Kerry unfortunately.

 

again, i think a great speech will help. but we need to see her sit down and do interviews or press conferences where she will face questions directly.

 

What a joke. 'Taking the high road' after releasing her SSN, her home phone number, directly attacking her daughter and her husband, and making up lies about the Alaskan Independence Party. Yeah, that's taking the high road.

Fortunately, Fred Thompson freaking destroyed the unscrupulous Snobama camp in his speech. So did Joe Lieberman (D-Connecticut). Great night for the Republicans. They are FIRED UP.

 

um, he runs his own campaign. he's not friends with all the people in the democratic party dude. you're old enough to know that right.

people DIRECTLY connected with the campaign have been quiet as quiet can be regarding palin.

great night? all they did was throw red meat (obviously republicans will love it). they still haven't told me one thing i don't know about mccain. his POW is played out. and yea, i love it how they're the party that puts the country first

 

But it was certainly ok for Kerry to try to use Vietnam to his advantage in '04.

 

but mccain has used this since 2000. it's been 8 years my friend. it's fine to use it for a campaign (which kerry did). but for 8 years? and they want to introduce us to him again?

again, nobody is denying his heroism. but like bush said 8 years ago, being a great soldier makes you a great patriot, not a potential president.

 

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Red meat? You must have missed the Democratic VP nominee from 2000 speaking in FAVOR of John McCain. That's hardly red meat. That's bipartisan support for a candidate. Remember, Joe Lieberman was AL FREAKING GORE's CHOICE FOR VP. Yes, the same AL FREAKING GORE that liberals fantasize over.

Son, you just aren't qualified to address The_Conquistador. Raise your game, and I'll consider responding to you in the future. For now, it is beneath my dignity to waste time on your uneducated, poorly organized arguments.


OWNED

 

i know you're better than that. lieberman's credibility went out the window when he completely endorsed palin when he met her ONCE before his speech and said all these things about her? so please be educated about the facts first. and tell me, who did he appeal to tonight? thank you

this dude is a typical opportunistic politician.

and yes, the only thing i look forward to in life is you responding to my posts .

 

Joe Lieberman hasn't been a credible Democrat since 9/11. The guy is the Rudy Giuliani of the Democratic party. Israel and the war is all the man cares about, and every Democrat knows it. At this point, Democrats just wish he'd switch parties and go away.