Republican Leadership Unveils Exciting Agenda to Move US Forward:"Complete Gridlock"

Please do research. Van Jones was a capitalist. He disavowed his communist past.

I know some news organizations and websites won't cover the whole story, but it's out there if you look a little.

http://www.examiner.com/political-b...-continues-his-van-jones-communist-distortion

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/24-3

 

Can you address any other part of SamFisher's post? Like what is so liberal about adopting a Republican solution for health care? Or setting tax rates at levels below what Reagan had them at? Or passing a stimulus bill that was 40% tax cuts? Or continuing Bush's war policies?

Also, our government has been growing almost continuously for at least 30 years. So saying "Obama has taken things to an unprecedented level" is pointless. Reagan took things to an unprecedented level, as did both the older and younger Bush. Again, this is nothing ultra leftist that Obama is doing.

 

Something isn't liberal or conservative based on what party is supporting it. Republicans have supported liberals policies many times (this is one of the reasons Tea Party members are so pissed). The health care plan was full of regulations on the insurance industry (which would be the opposite of a free market) and eliminated an individual right (to not buy healthcare). This makes it very liberal, and if you believe the Republicans once supported such an idea then you simply believe Republicans supported a piece of liberal legislation.

 

Mitt Romney got a healthcare bill passed in Massachusetts that mandated the purchase of health insurance. That was a Republican passing a bill with a provision created by Republicans.

 

And he is taking tons of guff from other Republicans for it. In fact thats the number one thing his Republican presidential opponents attack him on. Again it just means a Republican supported a liberal idea.

 

You are missing the point, it wasn't a liberal idea, it was one invented by Republicans and only opposed once the Democrats incorporated it into their bill.

 

an idea isn't liberal or conservative because of who came up with it. The fact that it contains market regulations (opposite of a free market) and limits individual freedom (must have health insurance) makes it liberal.

 

You mean the "Republican" solution for healthcare that no Republicans voted for. The solution that according to Pelosi "We have to pass the bill so we can find out what is in it." The solution that was done behind closed doors after it was promised to be done out in the open. The solution that did not contain the two main Republican ideas of buying insurance across state lines and tort reform. The solution that is in federal court on it's Constitutionality. The solution that only Democrats that voted against it are touting it in their re-election platform. The solution that more than 60% of the country is against. The solution that Republicans are vowing to repeal with their election platforms. Yes this was a very "Republican" solution.

I have never complained about Obama as far as taxes goes however he is now wanting to let the Bush tax cuts expire on the richest Americans who are the ones who actually employ people. Letting tax cuts expire is the same as raising taxes. raising taxes in a recession is a bad idea.

The insanity has to stop somewhere. I was not happy with Bush either. We can't keep spending TRILLIONS more than we take in!!!!!

 

Yea good old Van is almost a hard line conservative. Please!!!

 

yeah better to ignore the context and facts of the matter, and just believe what you want. This from the same people that brought you the made up and false Shirly Sherrod and ACORN controversies

 

The reason I say that is because the public discourse is corporately sponsored. Most Americans get their information through television, a medium whose entire basis is advertising revenue. Even if contrasting views might good TV there is no incentive for their corporate sponsorship. They can censor or control the message simply by withholding their money. i.e. an expose of obesity in children will not be sponsored by McDonalds.

Most political advertising in this country is paid for by PAC's. It's a lot harder to get $5 from a million Americans than it is to get $5 million dollars from one big pharma industry association. i.e. the Billy Tauzin story on why Medicare cannot negotiate drug prices. And of course Fox News is a certified billion dollar propaganda machine that misinforms the people like that dumbass above.

They don't even keep up the pretense that they aren't.

Some people are asking if?
Some have said...

 

fixed!

They don't call it "truthiness" for nothing, FB. It just feels right, facts be damned.

 

You left out: "the 'Republican' idea that was thought up by Republicans in the 1990s and implemented on the state level by Republican Mitt Romney, who happens to be one of the most likely Republican presidential nominees for 2012, less than a decade ago."

 

And Mister Roberts, along with his Band of Merry Idiots, have assured that Big Business can spend what they want on who they want, because, by golly, Big Business is a person who cares!

 

What's good for GM is good for Rand is good for Teabagger.

 

The Tea Party is being used to ensure gridlock and the status quo.

Using the same pimps Big Money has always used for Republicans.

 

ROFL! Good old Sal doesn't seem to go for the tri-corner, but he'll slum it with a polo shirt at least. What a tool.

 

I think the only ones missing the point here are the folks silly enough to argue with tallanvor.

 

You're right, I let myself get sucked in.