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Republican Candidates for 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chrispbrown, May 17, 2013.

  1. dharocks

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    We will have to agree to disagree on this one. What your describing sounds a lot more like libertarianism to me than what mainstream conservatism has meant since probably the Reagan Administration.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Well I think true conservatives ARE Libertarians to a certain extent. That said, you are right, the Republican party went away from that a long time ago, so long ago in fact that those ideals seem foreign.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Not in policy but in attitude. Trump has captured the anger of the Tea Party. Cruz embodies them more in policy but can't channel the anger. Rubio policy wise isn't as conservative as the Tea Party but also is looking more like an empty suit.
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

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    So sad how Marco Rubio has fallen. This pretty much confirms why conservatives are turning toward the anti-GOP-establishment Trump.

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    How Rubio helped his ex-con brother-in-law acquire a real estate license

    When Marco Rubio was majority whip of the Florida House of Representatives, he used his official position to urge state regulators to grant a real estate license to his brother-in-law, a convicted cocaine trafficker who had been released from prison 20 months earlier, according to records obtained by The Washington Post.

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  5. Bandwagoner

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    I'm officially on board for Trump/Hogan but at what point are ex-cons allowed to gain employment? Do you want him dealing real estate or drugs?
     
  6. justtxyank

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    The problem with the tea party or extreme conservatism is that no self respecting individual with an above average iq can actually run with integrity while echoing the type of far right purity they want.

    Different types of candidates will echo different strains but no one can be all of them
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Is that really the best anyone could come up with? That Rubio helped out his brother-in-law? Hard hitting stuff.
     
  8. Cohete Rojo

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    There are plenty of jobs for felons. Thing is, why should felons be allowed to work jobs which require a license to serve the public (i.e. CPA, lawyer, doctor, real estate agent, etc)?
     
  9. Cohete Rojo

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    You mean his felon brother-in-law? Yes, the event reeks of unethical behavior. No different than Jeb Bush bailing out his crack-head daughter.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    He wrote a character reference for a family member.....maybe in your mind that's "unethical", but I think most people would laugh at you for that opinion.
     
  11. Cohete Rojo

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    Considering it was a character reference for a felon shows exactly what kind of judge of character Marco Rubio is.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    That's laughably reaching....but I get it, when there's nothing legit to pounce on, you take what you come up with.

    The guy was his brother in law and despite that he made a mistake, he wrote him a reference to help him find legitimate work to help provide for his family and nothing more. Send him to the Gulag.
     
  13. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Using political power to hand out favors to convicted felons. I wish Rubio had such a deep commitment to ALL ex cons.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Because they are citizens who have done their debt to society and if they want to get a job they should be encouraged. Is this a serious question? What other restrictions do you want to put on them? No professional certifications, no voting, no guns. Why not just send them back to prison.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    That's an incredibly simple minded way of looking at it.....but well, I guess that't not really surprising around these parts.

    Honestly, we're talking about a character reference and nothing more. It's kind of funny that in an election with so many candidates that have actual issues that people would want to focus on a character reference for a family member, but why not?

    I mean we have a Canadian, a criminally incompetent former Secretary of State, a con man, and a Socialist, but why focus on any of that?
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It was also back in 2002.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    This is basically what it looks like if you got together all of the candidates for president for a dinner and invited a random voter.

    https://youtu.be/9C4uTEEOJlM
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    Yeah, the last thing you want to do with an ex-con or a relative is give him something productive to do. Politics and political journalism is a nightmare.
     
  19. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Also, here is the text of this letter (one of 3 his brother in law procured at the urging of the Florida Division of Real Estate):

    “I have known Mr. Cicilia for over 25 years,” Rubio wrote in a July 1, 2002, letter to an official in the Real Estate Division of the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation. “I recommend him for licensure without reservation. If I can be of further assistance on this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me directly.”

    Wow....how horrific. If being an EX-felon was a detriment, the Florida Board could have easily denied him the license. Plus, we're talking about a real estate license. He didn't recommend him to some official post or law enforcement related job.
     
  20. Dairy Ashford

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    Either campaign contributions for mayor or Senate, or a co-sign on financing for apartment buildings in the most densely populated state in the country.
     

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