Reports of multiple Karens not wanting to play in the All Star Game

I would watch for once!

 

So the NBA thinks there's enough risk in players *talking* for a few minutes after the games that they put security guards on the court to prevent it, but also think its OK to mingle players from 20-30 NBA teams together on the court?

I don't know if the players can stop this, but they could use what happened to Durant this week to their advantage - have some kind of sorta-close contact with someone who suddenly "needs to be tested", and they'll be ruled ineligible for a day or two and can have the week off.

 

More interested in having healthy, non covid basketball games and playoffs.

I say let the Karens get their pedicures , pend time with their families, and putting young women through college.

 

Maybe I was a little too cynical. But it has been said so many times whenever people want to stop what they are doing that it becomes a cliche. It's too bad, because it used to be a meaningful thing for people reprioritizing their lives.

 

If the players want to be compensated 100% of their contracts as if Covid didn't exist, then they have to fulfill 100% of their responsibilities as if Covid didn't exist.

The adults in the room, the NBAPA and the NBA know this, but the players and some fans just want to have their cake and eat it, too.

 

Fans need to suck it up and honor their contract to suffer the ASG?

Seriously, what cake am I having and not eating by not giving a **** about the ASG during a pendemic?

 

I'm talking about the fans that agree with these players wanting to skip on an obligation, but not on compensation. The relevancy of the All-Star Game is almost irrelevant because ABC or TNT have already paid for it and expect to be able to broadcast it. They are already taking big fat losses due to fans not tuning in at the same numbers that they used to, they don't want to lose anymore.

The pandemic also is irrelevant to the contracts that have already been signed by all parties. I mean, the NBA will not allow TNT and ABC to pay them any less than they are owed, so the NBA has to hold up its end of the bargain which includes the All-Star Game. Basically the players are the only party involved in this business who believe that they don't have to hold up their end of the bargain.

 

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Everything about this season is a negotiation between the players and the owners - from safety protocols, restrictions on players' lives, # of games, when the season starts, etc. Nothing is set in stone here.

There's nothing in the players' contracts that says they can't go partying during their freetime - they agree to limit that in exchange for other things. There's a reason the NBA hasn't made the 2nd half of the schedule yet. Players can negotiate on the ASG just like everything else that both sides are negotiating on. Most of the players that are voicing their opinions have also said they'd show up if that's what's required. There's nothing in their contract that says they have to be happy about it or not complain about it.

 

How did we go from "multiple NBA superstars don't want to participate in the ASG due to virus concerns" to "they obviously want to be paid for it but not show up, so screw their entitled asses? Freakin' rich children, always screwing us hard-working Americans!! AARGH!"

No one in this thread is even talking about compensation, and from what I've read, those NBA stars aren't saying they want to be paid for the ASG even though they don't want to participate. I feel like you two are taking real-world situations and imparting your personal biases against into something that's not even there.

Obviously, I don't know the detailed specifics of NBA contracts, from players like LeBron to players like a random RGV Viper sitting at the end of the bench. But I highly doubt the NBA and its team of lawyers is stupid enough to put in a clause where players are still paid even though they don't play in special games like the ASG or participate in certain events. Maybe the NBA is...who knows? But I doubt it.

And when special instances arise, I doubt players will still get paid even though they sat something out for an invalid reason. If you're out because you injured your ankle and aren't healthy enough to play on it, I'm sure you're still paid for the games you missed. Maybe. However, if that same player is out because they simply didn't want to dress for that game, I doubt they get paid. Unless I'm giving the NBA too much credit, there's probably stuff in the contract to protect against this.

@RKREBORN: I'm not saying you're wrong. But you said it yourself - these players are distant from the struggles of the average American...because they're not your average American. Their contracts are (probably) dissimilar to the contract of a construction worker or a manager at a small company because they're simply more unique. You and @JumpMan can sit there behind your keyboard or on your phone and say how you think LeBron and Giannis are wrong for not wanting to participate, but if you were a an NBA player, maybe you'd share their same opinions.

I think you and JumpMan are taking very valid situations (that us regular people would encounter) and grievances, and applying it to a very special situation.

Again, I don't know the specifics of NBA contracts, but if these players are willing to leave money on the table by not participating in the game, then that's not entitlement at all.

 

You just want to see Tilman get posterized by every other owner in the NBA, don't you? Let's be real.

Cuban's tweet afterwards: "How my nuts taste, Tilman?"

 

The straw that broke the camel's back in regard to the all star game was the players picking the teams. ****ing dumb

 

As far as all star weekend; I like the Saturday event the best; 3pt shooting and dunk contest.

I can do without the ASG.

 

Slight complications would be the TV contract NBA has with TNT, if NBA can't deliver, breach of contract?

As far as players not playing the ASG, I can see it from their point of view. However, if the game doesn't happen, do the players who opt-out get to keep the 'nth time all star' on their résumé.

Pretend if NBA gets petty: can the league call giannis/lebron's bluff and give the award to the next most voted person.' Would that change Giannis/Lebron incentives? They want the award, but don't want to play the game.

 

There would have been multiple geeze Louises, but that has long since jumped the cliff.

 

The main things I take from your thread...
1) You're a d***.
2) You don't know what sarcasm is since you continue to argue your original point... even on consecutive posts.
3) You don't understand how to have a conversation with other humans... hence the shouting matches. I'm guessing this sort of thing happens to you pretty often.
4) Your opinions carry the thoughtfulness of a 24-hour news network opinion segment.

So if a basketball player's mother dies, and they ask for time off to mourn, would this be your same response? If a basketball player has an infected paper cut, would this be your same response?

For you, I'm not sure, but for most people that answer would be NO. For 2021 all-star game attendance, a rational response is a shade of gray somewhere between "no problem", and your reaction. I'm betting you're not going to start over from scratch here, but you should take this s*** somewhere else because it's incredibly annoying.

 

This is not true. If NBA revenues drop, player salaries drop correspondingly. Their contracts are only estimates and are adjusted based on actual NBA income. So if the NBA cancels the all-star game, TNT doesn't have to pay that allotment, NBA revenues drop, and players salaries goes down. All of that stuff is built into the system. Players are already taking significant salary cuts due to the lack of fans in arenas, for example.

 

Dude you are talking about the freakin ASG.

This has nothing to do with entitlement most players love ALL Star weekend.

What the hell does the ASG have to with the struggle of the average american, tal about virtue signalling.

 

Although, to be fair, last year's game was the most competitive and entertaining one I can ever remember. Mostly due to the new format, of course, but it didn't really matter how they picked the teams.