WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern and Silver still haven't arrived at a "news conference.". Half the union negotiators are on a plane out of town already.
The only thing more foolish than all of this is many of us buying into the idea that something had changed.... adbrandtAndrew Brandt All NBA issues interrelated. Sense lower split (50/50) may work for players with softer Cap, less punitive tax. Stern not going there.
It could have been, but I would question why anyone on the union side (particularly a union lawyer or negotiator) would leak that info and would doubt the owners side would know of a division. Seems to me the union has always been about showing a unified front.
Agreed - but that's always the case with leaks. Whether in sports or politics or anything else, leakers tend to hurt their side's cause, but they do it because they like being important or whatnot.
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern confirms NBA schedule is cancelled through November 30th. KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: In order to have revenue sharing, you have to have profit. sheridanhoops Chris Sheridan Stern ruled out an 82-game season "under any circumstances." Jonathan_Feigen Jonathan Feigen David Stern: NBA games cancelled through Nov. 30. "Not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season ... under any circumstances." daldridgetnt David Aldridge Games officially cancelled thru Nov 30. Stern: "...there will not be a full NBA season under any circumstances." SHowardCooper Scott Howard-Cooper Stern: "It's not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now.... There will not be a full NBA season under any circumstances." SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears NBA announces cancellation of games through November. Stern says not possible to have a full NBA season "under any circumstances." ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern: "There will not be a full NBA season under any circumstances." KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: There will not be a full NBA season under any circumstances. WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern: "It's not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now..." ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix NBA cancels games through the end of November. "It's not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now," says Stern. KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: It's not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now. We held out that joint hope together. WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern says Hunter told him that he wouldn't go below 52 percent on BRI, that he had many calls from agents and he closed his book and left. SHowardCooper Scott Howard-Cooper NBA makes it official: Games canceled through Nov. 30. daldridgetnt David Aldridge Stern says owners were willing to go to 50, and that Hunter sId he couldn't below 52, and left the room. KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: Our games are canceled through Nov. 30. ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern says after Hunter said he wouldn't go below 52%, "he closed up his book and walked out of the room." KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: Billy Hunter said he was not willing to go a pennny below 52. ... He closed up his book and walked out of the room. ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern: Two or three open items on system. Turned to BRI split. Said NBA owners willing to go to 50%. Hunter said not willing penny below 52% KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: I said that the NBA owners were willing to go to 50 percent on the percentage split of BRI. WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern talking about league giving "concessions" on allowing NBA players to be paid under current contracts. Amazing. KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: There were two or three open items left on the system issues. ... Then we turned to BRI.
KBergCBS Ken Berger Silver: In order to change the economic model that underpins this league, we had to reduce expenses across the board. daldridgetnt David Aldridge Stern; we think at 50-50, we'd be in a profit situation. ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern: We talked revenue sharing today. In order to have revenue sharing, you have to have profit. We think 50-50, we would be profit.
As long as the league comes out better off and more competitive in the end, that is fine by me. I am shocked that the union has not decertified though, that would have sped things along significantly. DD
So they wait on the PC so ESPN can hold it live on SC, then ESPN abruptly cuts off? F ESPN! SHowardCooper Scott Howard-Cooper Stern said league proposal includes players being paid full existing contracts as opposed to rollbacks. Called it a "concession." STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein David Stern: "It's not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now. There will not be full NBA season under any circumstances" Jonathan_Feigen Jonathan Feigen Stern keeps reiterating: "Billy (Hunter) left the room." Really placing blame. "We made fair level of concessions. WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern: "The Mid-level exception at $5 million is a big concession by our owners." ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern says sides aren't still talking because "Billy left the room." Pow. WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Why aren't the sides still talking? Stern: "Billy left the room." KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: I'm not going to project future negotiations or negotiate with you in the media. ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern says he doesn't know if the league has reached it's bottom line. Won't project future negotiations. KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern says, "I don't know" if both sides are at bottom line.
This thing is bout to get ugly. Did Stern just basically say that their offer will lower? If so LOL at the union.
KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: We're going to have to recalculate how bad the damage is (from canceled games). ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern: Union position on BRI split an "utter misrepresentation." The league's formal offer was 50 percent. KBergCBS Ken Berger Stern: That would be an utter misrepresentation (re: Fisher's confusion over 47 or 50)? daldridgetnt David Aldridge Stern says league has moved to five year contracts for Bird FAs, four on non-Birds. ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix NBA issues a press release announcing cancellation of games through the end of November.
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix Stern says mid level for taxpayers, sign and trade for taxpayers and BRI are open issues. WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Stern essentially says: As the NBA loses more money with the cancellation of games, the players can expect owner's offers to get worse. daldridgetnt David Aldridge Stern: you can assume our (next) offer will change to reflect the changed economics from missing games. SHowardCooper Scott Howard-Cooper Stern indicates next offer from the league will be much tougher to reflect lost revenue from canceled games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?s=la Bill Simmons is on right now talking about this. Great insight.
