TMac and Kobe for Phoenix to sort? Kobe stays in LA, TMac is the consolation prize? TMac's 'psyche' is in play here. Phoenix has been reported to claim Johnson will NOT be dealt. Jacobsen is Kareem Rush. Big deal. Two superstars -- Amare and TMac, both want the shots (even if they are 'buddies'). Two superstars -- Yao and TMac, both happy for TMac to get the lion's share of shots. Does Indy really figure into this? The race is on. This is fun -- if Rox 'win'!
Too bad the Chron has stopped posting stories until EARLY in the morning or we'd know something already.
Baqui - the Magic would be happy to give you all Tyronn Lue. Addition (for the Magic) by subtraction. He would not fit into Van Gundy's system, in my opinion - he's not a great defender, he's a jack-it-up streaky shooter, and he will get abused by taller points on the defensive end. His redeeming quality is his ability to start the fast break and push the ball up the court. In other words, having watched him the past year, you don't want him starting for your team, especially not one with hopes of contending. Backup? Perhaps...but that still means you need a starter.
Tmac will probably narrow the list down to Indiana and Houston so that he can play with a big name center, as req
Didnt Mobley play point before? Is Mobley repetitive at the 2 if we get TM Will we have any better option for the point if SF is traded for TM? Most of us who actually paid attention saw Mobley become a pretty decent JVG player last year...he would have good size for a 1...and Im fairly certain he coiuld handle the job. the salaries line up to just trade Cato and SF....but Orlando would probably not like th deal unless TM forced the trade to Houston...then Houston owuld be in the driverrs seat to offer up only cato and SF....move Cat to the point untila better option can be found....and then 6th man after that.
xiki - I think Amare would defer to McGrady as the superior offensive option. I don't think the offense would be set up for Yao to defer to McGrady in Houston; I think you'd still have some conflict between Yao and the other star (Francis or McGrady, pick one) as to the offensive sets run and who is the featured weapon. Just my opinion, though.
i'm really thinking that we should try to use our favorite player- TE- and trade his ass for a point guard.....Fisher? Snow? hell even damon stoudamire and his bloated contract would be nice.
Vague reference to a "Houston TV station" and no mention of anyone seeing it here. I tend to think if it was reported, we'd have 4 new threads (that I'd have to merge together) reporting the news. Early diagnosis: Crap.
I caught the tail end of the channel 13 sports....and I didnt hear any deals confirmed...only talk about Phil leaving and Shaq demanding a trade.
Has this been posted??? Sources: T-Mac wants to leave By Brian Schmitz Sentinel Staff Writer June 18, 2004, 10:36 PM EDT T-Mac will not be back. Orlando Magic superstar Tracy McGrady has told the franchise he wants to be traded and, in a stunning move, could be dealt before the NBA draft Thursday night, the Orlando Sentinel has learned. A highly placed league source Friday said McGrady informed the Magic he wanted out in December, and the team has been exploring the best offers. Magic General Manager John Weisbrod declined comment. The Indiana Pacers, the Houston Rockets and the Phoenix Suns could be potential trade partners for McGrady, a four-time all-star and two-time scoring champ. He told the Sentinel several weeks ago that he wanted to play with a big center if he were traded. He said a team such as the Rockets--who have 7-foot-6 Yao Ming--appealed to him. Magic owner Rich DeVos met with McGrady on Friday afternoon, but apparently the sitdown did little to change McGrady's mind. McGrady did not return calls to his home in south Orlando. The source said at least two other Magic players also could be traded before the draft. Eight years after Shaquille O'Neal left the team as a free agent, the Magic are losing another franchise player. O'Neal exited as a free agent after exercising an option in his contract, and the Magic received no compensation. They were not going to let history--and misery--repeat itself. McGrady, 25, had planned on opting out of his seven-year, $93 million contract after next season. Several sources said McGrady had informed the club around Christmas that he wanted out, so the move was not unexpected. Several of his teammates had said privately that they suspected he wanted to be traded. Indiana Pacers chief operating officer Donnie Walsh said last week that he had spoken to "someone in the (Magic) organization" who said there was "a good chance" that McGrady would be traded. McGrady had said at the end of the season that he would seek a trade if Orlando did not significantly upgrade its roster. The Magic finished with a league-worst record of 21-61 last season, losing a club-record 19 consecutive games. It was after the streak that the frustration seemingly overwhelmed McGrady, weary of having to carry the load for three-plus years. He had become so emotional that he talked of retirement and became critical of his teammates in the media, privately disappointing management. McGrady's departure caps the most volatile season in club history. After blowing a three-games-to-one lead to the Detroit Pistons in the first round of the National Basketball Association's Eastern Conference playoffs the previous season, the franchise signed eight new players, four of them rookies. But the plan backfired badly. Coach Doc Rivers was fired after the Magic started 1-10 and replaced by assistant Johnny Davis. John Gabriel was demoted as general manager in March. Weisbrod, the club's chief operating officer and former GM of the Orlando Solar Bears minor-league hockey team, took over as general manager. He stressed professionalism and discipline, but Weisbrod's style seemed to rub McGrady the wrong way. McGrady's departure ends the grand plan put together in the summer of 2000 by Gabriel. The Magic signed Grant Hill and McGrady, hoping the pairing could make the team championship contenders. But Hill wound up undergoing four surgeries on his left ankle, playing just 47 games. Carrying the scoring load by himself with Hill sidelined, McGrady blossomed into one of the NBA's best players. In one of his last games before being placed on the injured list with a sore knee, McGrady scored a team-record and NBA regular-season- high 62 points against the Washington Wizards on March 10. Earlier Friday at RDV Sportsplex, after the Magic worked out Emeka Okafor, who they could take with the first overall pick in the draft, Weisbrod was asked how much interest there had been in McGrady. "From just the GMs who send unsolicited faxes and leave unsolicited messages, there are enough things out there that will be better than OK in a trade," Weisbrod said. "So I don't think us doing a bad deal is an option. We wouldn't do a bad deal." DeVos had said rather prophetically earlier Friday that fans and media would not know the outcome of the McGrady saga "until we put together whatever we're going to do." Story Link
he did a 'serviceable' job his rookie year. but then again...we had barkley and dream so all he had to do was get the ball to them anyways.
No kidding! And where the heck is Doc Rocket when you need him? Ok, don't scold me and I dont do this often, but a quote on the Orlando RealGM board said... I have no clue who the "pacer source" is but found it intersting. It would not surprise me if the Pacers were unwilling to gut their 60 win team whereas the Rockets would be very willing to move multiple players as we are further away.
my god i hope that realgm article is true...but i really cant see it all happening that quickly..especially not with the other teams being in contention. I believe the biggest threat to the Rox getting Tmac comes from the Pacers. If they're willing to break up a 60 win team to acqure TMac...watch out!
Jeff, that is a 'rewrite' of the original story from earlier adding more information. That paragraph is just the 'reset' of what McGrady said a few weeks ago. But it looks great in print once again!
yea but our offense isn't consistent as it was when we had Dream and Barkley so Mobes has to also score as well. I'd be pretty sad if Mobley was traded. He's shown a lot of loyalty to this organization.
thats the bonus...he can do 3 things that we need of a point. 1)defend 2)shoot 3) dump it to the post do we have any better options? Wilks? no thanks... maybe get barry?...bad defender...not rreally worthy of the starting point without at least Mobley level defense. my point remains...contrary to what some think here....Cat did one helluva job adapting to JVG...and has played the position before...and if TM wants us....we dont have to give up Cat...just Cato and SF... all Im saying is seriously look at the scenario and see if t has merit.
If cat opts out as a Rocket then Rox are backed into a corner with having to let him go, uncompensated perhaps, or pay him a larger annual salary -- and I love Cat, but not as a 7 mil (to start) 30 year old.
we don't include Mobley and we use him and the TE and trade him to Philly for Eric Snow and Samuel Dalembert..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
