Spoiler <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Happy 2015, world. New year begins with a State of the Cavs column. Boiling point already for LBJ/Blatt/Gilbert --> <a href="http://t.co/XGT2e9lAGF">http://t.co/XGT2e9lAGF</a></p>— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/550517594135228416">January 1, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
his mistake was thinking kevin love is a winner. that guy can't be one of the stars on a championship team. ultimate loser stat filler.
For all the bashing Lebron received over the years, this year the hate for his actual on court play and demeanour is truly deserving!!
Actually .. . I really like LeBron as a person I think what most people don't get is. . . HE DOESN'T LIVE AND BREATHE BASKETBALL It's his job and he good at it. . . he works hard at it. . . but it is nothing more than a means to an end I think he is more business man than basketball player He is about the money . . .etc etc . . . . . Taking less money to win championship is more Brand building than anything I think he is more conscious of that than Jordan or Kobe Jay-Z is far from the best rapper but he is the best marketed and does more with what he has imo . . .. I think LeBron is the same. . .except he is probably the best basketball player I think people want players to be . .. just players and not REAL people. Rocket River
I am trying to stay out of the discussion but cannot. Lebron IIRC has led the Cavs without any legit allstars to Finals and Semi Final appearances. Kobe always had allstar caliber sidekicks and Top 5-6 player of Alltime in Shaquille. The time he did not have an allstar and only Kwame Brown and Smush Parker he threw them under the bus and tried to force a trade. I know Lebron played in the Weaker East throughout of his career and he does not share Kobe's craziness for the game. But as a complete allround talent Lebron beats Kobe. Don't get me wrong. Kobe was a great player but so is Lebron. Everyone wants to play with Lebron but players were shipped to the Lakers because of history and not because of wanting to play with Kobe.
I agree that Lebron doesn't have that killer instinct, and that he is a prima donna etc, I don't think anybody denies that. But Kobe is 10x worse LOL. Why are you lumping Kobe with MJ like he belongs on that level? With Lebron at least when he left Cleveland you can say it was a ****ty team (that he still took to the finals btw) so he had no choice but to leave. But Kobe? Dude practically ran Shaq out of town, and then he started b****ing and complaining about how the team was bad when he was the one who destroyed it. And then he did the same thing with Dwight, Lakers could've had Dwight as a foundational piece after he retires but Kobe still ran him out of town, the only ones Kobe will accept are players who always defer to him such as guys like Pau Gasol or Lamar Odom. Lebron may be a prima donna but he's someone who attracts players who want to win, he had been able to recruit guys like Mike Miller, Ray Allen and even Bosh admitted he was waiting on LBJ to stay with the Heat before he made a decision. Kobe? Dude is the guy no one wants to play with, only person I know who actively wanted to play with Kobe was metta, and he stayed all of one season LOL. Even Nash admitted Kobe was a b**** to play with, and you can't be more unselfish than that dude. As far as individual accomplishments go, Lebron came in with a lot of hype but I think he pretty much met the high expectations people had for him. He has 4 MVPs, he has 2 rings, he has 2 Finals MVPs and both his regular season and playoff stats are among the best ever. He's already a top 5 of all time and pretty much blows Kobe out of the water both individually and when it comes to being a team player. Maybe LBJ doesn't have balls of steel, well there's lot of guys like that in the NBA. There isn't a lot of guys though who has Karl Malone's physique and D Rose's quickness. It's an insult to Lebron that people think a career coat-tail ride like Kobe is better than him, what exactly has Kobe done without another HOF big man by his side doing the heavy lifting?
What about Ron Artest. He was coming off a sensational year in Houston, why did he leave that situation for....the Lakers. Hm
you pick the one player who is a notorious nutcase.. the guy changed his name to"Pandas Friend" for crying out loud.. thats the player your using in your arguement?? Pandas Friend!?!?!? Its obvious Pandas Friend doesn't have very much sense when it comes to his decision making.. if he did there would have never been a brawl in the stands
MWP was one of the few players that went ring chasing and did not care to team up with Kobe. For limited time. He got lucky