No they don't, just a temporary suspension ,no arrest made ,after all him and his rival were partner and must shared a data bases of whomever aligned with their perspective affiliation .this what great leaders do...they keep records
My wife has a Turkish citizen friend who lives in Houston. I've been hearing stories for years about Turkish embassy thugs harassing and intimidating her around town, ever since she went to a couple of protests a few years back. There's a whole lot more, too, that I don't want to go into. But there is a pervasive pattern of little violations against anybodyou they decide they are against. Small deal in the grand scheme, but anybody who looks closely and doesn't see a pattern of unsavory behavior by Edrogen's government is being willfully blind or projecting their own desires for a strong just Muslim leader. Edrogen's government is a cabal of cartoonishly sinister goons. They are the bad guys out of some cheesy 60's spy movie. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were working on a death ray or something.
Turkish navy ships still missing since attempted coup – as it remains unclear which side admirals are on The 14 missing ships were reportedly on active duty in either the Aegean or the Black Sea and have not tried to make contact with naval headquarters or report back to the port. It is suspected they may be heading to Greek ports. On Saturday, eight Turkish military officers took a helicopter to Greece to seek asylum. Turkey's state-run news agency said courts have ordered 85 generals and admirals jailed pending trial over their roles in the botched coup attempt. Dozens of others are still being questioned. Anadolu Agency said those formally arrested include former air force commander General Akin Ozturk, alleged to be the ringleader of the uprising, and General Adem Hududi, commander of Turkey's 2nd Army, which is in charge of countering possible threats to Turkey from Syria, Iran and Iraq. Authorities have rounded up thousands alleged to have been involved in the coup, in which 208 government supporters and 24 coup plotters were killed. The government says Fethullah Gulen, a US-based Muslim cleric, was behind the coup. Turkey failed coup: Thousands detained or dismissed Thousands of officials suspected of links to him were purged from the judiciary and the Interior Ministry. During the uprising, warplanes fired on government buildings and tanks rolled into the streets of major cities before the rebellion was put down by forces loyal to the government and pro-Erdogan civilians who took to the streets. The top brass did not support the coup. EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said at a news conference with US Secretary of State John Kerry that the coup "is no excuse to take the country away from fundamental rights and the rule of law, and we will be extremely vigilant on that." Mr Kerry said Turkey must "uphold the highest standards for the country's democratic institutions and the rule of law." While he recognized the need to apprehend the coup plotters, he added: "We caution against a reach that goes beyond that." Mostafa Minawi, director of the Ottoman and Turkish Studies Initiative at Cornell University, called the failed coup "a gift for President Erdogan, given him all the justification he needs to implement further clamp down measures against any dissenters, in the process sinking Turkey deeper into authoritarianism." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rals-military-president-erdogan-a7144141.html
Moody’s reviews Turkey for downgrade after failed coup Sovereign debt rater Moody’s said late July 18 it was reviewing Turkey’s credit rating for a possible downgrade after the attempted military coup on the weekend. A one-notch downgrade from the current Baa3 rating would push the government’s rating down into “speculative” or junk status. “Despite the coup’s failure, Moody’s considers its occurrence a reflection of broader political challenges, as associated credit risks remain elevated,” Moody’s said. “We believe that the most recent increase in domestic political uncertainty, and most specifically the attempted coup, has the potential to significantly affect the country’s growth trajectory negatively, a risk that we will evaluate during the review.” Moody’s said the country has moved slower than expected on implementing economic reforms and that the growth outlook has weakened, with a forecast of 3.0 percent for this year, down from 3.5 percent last year. The country is heavily dependent on external funding for the government and private sector, a reliance that “continues to expose the country to sudden shifts in investor confidence.” Fitch, another of the three top rating agencies, said July 18 that the attempted coup “highlights political risks to the country’s sovereign credit profile.” “Whether this translates into sovereign ratings pressure will depend on the extent to which the government’s reaction deepens political divisions and weakens institutional independence. This could undermine policy coherence and heighten the risks that external financing stresses materialize.” Fitch currently rates Turkish sovereign debt at “BBB-”, one step above “speculative.” Fitch said its next review of Turkey is scheduled for Aug. 19. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/mo...rade.aspx?pageID=238&nID=101791&NewsCatID=344
news from this website is like an astrology prediction ,not the most reliable source but it say: DEBKAfile reports that 42 Turkish Air Force helicopters have vanished with their crews and ordnance - and so has the pair of F16 warplanes which bombed parliament in Ankara and nearly intercepted the incoming flight carrying President Reccep Erdogan back home Saturday. Their disappearance appears to be prompting the president and prime minister to urge citizens to continue turning out in town squares support of the government, in case the coup threat is not over.
It's not a matter of them letting us; it's a matter of protecting the Turkish people in and around the air base who do business with the US military personnel. These people run a high risk of being attacked in the purge that is still on going.
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AND...the judges denied Turkey deportation of the 8 military defectors. Since it was obvious at this point that as soon as they set foot there, Erdogan would torture and wouldn't give them any kind of fair trial. Very nice opportunity for Erdogan now to threaten a war.
Meh. Erdogan is not interested in war or morality, he is interested in getting rich and torturing Turkish people he doesn't like. He will bark about this but in reality he is too busy making sure his power holds steady even if he has to physically leave his position at any time in the future. War with foreigners is the last thing on his mind. He is at war with his own people.
he is not one of those wonderful secular Ataturk's Generals Are you confused again! here is another reality check to your wonderful Grand Mullas who you wish others will follow their footsteps: "Another painful product of colossal corruption among Iranian regime’s elite is children’s trafficking and abuse for money. A child is bought and sold for under 60 dollars outside hospitals in south of Tehran, a city official has said. “New born babies are being sold between 100,000 to 200,000 Tomans (27 to 54 U.S. Dollars) in areas near hospitals in south of Tehran,” Fatemeh Daneshvar, the head of Social Committee of Tehran’s City Council has said, according to a report published by state-run news agenc", now adding more to this ,official are debating if they should impose full scale sterilization on the poor
What are you talking about? Who cares about if he's Ataturk's general or whatever. With the way that in the past months he's been prosecuting from military personell to teachers journalists policement etc I dont' blame the justice system from not being convinced these men would have any sort of fair trial and treatment. Would YOU? In the beginning the extradiction (spelling?) was only a beauracratic procedure and a sure thing. Others have been extradicted in the past before plenty of times including some very famous PKK kurdish leaders. But with the past few months not so. The most possible retaliation for starters is to open on purpose the flood gates of immigrants and ofc the hundreds a day of air and sea intrusions will multiply. I dont' think that Erdogan will NOT threaten war. Just a few months before he questioned the validity of the Lausanne treaty and this month he said that people should evacuate most Aegean islands because it's too close to their borders.
Erdogan is busy making himself the "Mini-Putin" of Turkey. A strongman who jails his opponents (or worse), who shuts down (or worse?) media outlets of all kinds that don't agree with him, who is pushing through amendments to Turkey's constitution that make a joke of Turkey's secular tradition. Yet there are those busy making excuses for him, just as they continue to make excuses for Trump's bizarre behavior. Heck, Trump, Erdogan, and Putin should get along famously. Democracy? Democracy is being stabbed in the back by all 3.
your own initial post in this thread and see the irony (who cares) I'm glad you have forgot and ultimately got plenty of sleep trials based on treasonous/Traitors bases was never kind of any sort ! Not like it never happened or supported ! Do you think if the coup was a success he would be still breathing ! this thread was a melting point between a nostalgic affection over a Tyrants of Atatürk and distorted comprehension of the difference between civil secularism and Fascism. Erdugan is accused of threatening the democracy of Turkey ( which was former Military personal's proxy in civilian clothing) + Islamization of his nation ,am I right! It's like accusing the Mexican president of forcing his nation to be catholic,the absurd affection toward Atatürk secularism is not different than having crush over the communist or the Nazi ruling party , where prosecuting people for worshiping is justified, women wearing veils were denied from universities, reciting Quran punished with excursion of a lifetime in jail Erdogan alliance with the US foreign policy , leading his country from 111th bankrupt economy to be among the top 16th globally and giving freedom of practices to their religious rituals did not immune him from criticism or cover his back from military coup. He is in some ways very similar to Papa Andreu, a man who fought for the US,fought communist but for irrational reasoning a ".... high- ranking CIA officer in Greece who was close to the colonels who led the coup, advised them to "shoot the mother****er because he's going to come back to haunt you". Accusation are costume made when ever it's appropriate ,media smear campaigns ,there is no shortage of hypocrites, but to point toward your anxiety : many wouldn't mind if Erdogan attack Greece ,it's a small sacrifice to hunt him in hindsight of aftermath, but its Highly unlikely,he is no brainless military Generals to escalate a meaningless war
wtf ..you barely make any sense. You are comparing my reaction on the night of the coup to 7 months later my reaction to the decision on the extradiction? Are you ok with your brain? Like seriously. Trials of traitors. There's no guaranttee there would be any kind of fair trial whatsoever. The decision wasn't based on their action but on whether their human rights could be guaranteed, the human right of having a fair trial and of not be a victim of torture. GTFO with comparing Papandreou with Erdogan. Did he change the constitution to make himself a sultan?
this vulgar attitude fits well with your pathetic arguments, to end this think for a sec. if you can concentrate that long :who's on earth is going to invade Greece , and wake the next morning meeting with creditors lining up demanding the 200Billions in debt to be paid!!!!
not only you didn't even asnwer anything but your logic is what?? That countries only invade other countries after they make sure that they don't have debts? LOOOOOOOOOOL Here this one is the most ridiculous argument of possibly the whole forum. Congratulations. Logic of a 3 year old.
