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Replacing Clint Capela

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Asian Sensation, May 29, 2018.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    ...I can see Qi lead the league in blocks 2-3 years down the road in a Manute Bol type role, but unless he starts taking 'roids, he does not have the bulk to be a solid rebounder, which is key for big men to win that award. He also doesn't have the needed quickness that Capela has shown (edit: maybe just haven't seen it, but his draft scouting report does rate him favorably in terms of quickness).

    In all seriousness, did not realize that Texas has legalized hallucinogenics.
     
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  2. Blackjack84

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    these threads gets to be annoying
     
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  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    yeah an upgrade at the F spot would be great. i dont think the rockets consider a real difference between the 3 and 4 positions, so just someone who can guard multiple positions, hit the corner 3 at a high clip, and if they can create their own offense or create for others that would be great.

    my top choices would be tobias harris, chris middleton, or otto porter in a S&T for clint. harrison barnes would be great too but there's no chance of the rockets or mavs wanting to help each other. if they came with extra compensation i'd also consider jabari parker, millsap, mirotic.

    main point is, we'd only be one tick worse at center but save 75% of the cost. and that cost could go towards a guy who could actually make an difference against the warriors.
     
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  4. ApacheWarrior

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    I will believe someone offering Capela max money (To a Restricted Free Agent) when I see it.

    First the team needs to have that type of cheddar......few do. The approx 8 teams that do have the money
    have many holes to fill and will spend the money on other FA’s (that are not Restricted FA’s).

    Second they can draft a Center in the top 12 picks if need be. Draft happens June 21st......before free agency July 1st.
     
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  5. Rocket River

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    Just saw that Phoenix has the #1 pick in the draft and the #16
    Add Capela and those two picks to Booker

    This could be the cornerstone of their organization for the next 5 years
    IT will only cost them Tyson Chandler and taking on Anderson

    Rocket River
     
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    I'm slightly optimistic he doesn't get a max as he is worth more to us than anyone else due to the offensive end. The Suns are a wild card though as a Doncic/Capela PNR game would be sweet.
     
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    Interesting....
     
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  8. ApacheWarrior

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    Yeah I’m not sure they would part with Booker. They have a nice little roster.
    Suns
    C) Tyson Chandler ($13.6 mil/ 2018-19....25 mins/ game 2017-18......6.5 pts/ game 2017-18)
    ......DeAndre Ayton (#1 draft pick)

    PF) Marquese Chriss ($3 mil/ 2018-19.....21 mins/ game 2017-18......7.7 pts/ game 2017-18)
    ........Bender ($4.7 mil/ 2018-19................25 mins/ game 2017-18.......6.5 pts/ game 2017-18)
    Jared Dudley ($9.5 mil/ 2018-19...............14 mins/ game 2017-18......3.2 pts/ game 2017-18)

    SF) TJ Warren ($11.8 mil/ 2018-19...........33 mins/ game 2017-18......19.6 pts/ game 2017-18)

    SG) Booker ($3.2 mil/ 2018-19..................35 mins/ game 2017-18.......25 pts/ game 2017-18)
    ........Josh Jackson ($6 mil/ 2018-19..........25 mins/ game 2017-18.......13 pts/ game 2017-18)
    ........Troy Daniels ($3.3 mil/ 2018-19.......20.5 mins/ game 2017-18......8.9 pts/ game 2017-18)

    PG) Brandon Knight ($14.6 mil/ 2018-19...31 mins/ game 2017-18.......15.3 pts/ game 2017-18)

    Listed above are players under contract thru 2018-19 season.

    C) Ayton is a slightly slimmer Joel Embiid. Able to shoot 3-pointers.....moves around the basket.......good
    mid-range. Potential to become a good defender and rim protector. Tyson gives Ayton time to develop in
    the first year...possibly starting over Tyson early in the season.

    PF) might be set with Chriss/Bender/Dudley

    SF) TJ Warren 19.6 pts / game.

    SG) Booker 25 pts / game. Josh Jackson might be served best as PG since Knight is always injured.

    PG) B Knight (health). Josh Jackson??

    *So I see a need for backup center......doesn’t Ayton cover need for Center. Capela at $20 + mil for a RFA
    seems steep for a bottom feeder team. PnR needs more outside shooting or the defense just converge on
    Jackson/Booker- Capela exchange. Can Booker/Jackson feed sweet lobs to Capela? Ayton is a better
    option because he will be on a rookie contract.
    *Backup SF
    *Possibly some PG help.....or draft PG at #16 and go hard for another SF in free agency.

    Team salary this summer:
    .....$82.96 mil.
    — $5.5 mil (Alan Williams non-guaranteed)
    — $4.5 mil (E Payton- renounce rights)
    — $1.6 mil (Ulis)
    — $1.4 mil (Reed)
    __________
    $ 69.96 mil or $70 million.....https://en.hispanosnba.com/salaries/phoenix-suns

    so yes they can go after Capela at $25 mil, but drafting Ayton #1 with a backup SF at #16, then best free agent
    point guard might be the best move. But I would do a SnT for Ayton-Capela.
    I would love Roy Rogers/Lucas/Bzdelik/Olajuwon working with Ayton on his defense.
     
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  9. leebigez

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    Looking at game 7 minus cp3 illustrated the lack of mid range that aided the fall of the rockets. During those 27 straight misses and no Paul or anyone who could get in between really hurt the rockets. As much as I like CC and the easy assist on the lobs, I think a grizzled vet like Marc Gasol makes more sense for this team. The rockets need a player who the warriors will have to occupy a defender with. Even at his best, Capela is a putback/lob guy. A player like Gasol would give the rockets a stretch 5 who is also a very good passer, low post scorer and mid range shooter. Plus he's in that age range with Paul,Harden,Tucker.
     
  10. saleem

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    Thanks Apache. This may help DM to get Clint back on a relatively cheap contract.
     
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  11. saleem

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    I like him but he is getting old, and has a history with injuries. There is no doubt that we need a vet, but one
    who is young and healthy. The exception of course is Lebron.
     
  12. Corrosion

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    You gotta realize something - From the start the Rockets will be operating OVER the cap. That means they wont be able to just go out and offer a contract to a potential replacement , they have to acquire talent via trade and its gonna cost assets to make that happen. What assets do you have that you are willing to give up for guys who aren't as good as the guy you have.
     
  13. HP3

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    You guys have to understand how valuable CC is to not only our defense but our Offense, name me a center that can switch on to guards? There are no big men that can do that besides Davis none. We need him and Harden and CP want him here.
     
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    I don’t see that many down sides to losing him but ideally it would be great to keep him.

    -Best case scenario we get- Demarcus Cousins, obviously we would have to live with this as our major piece and possibly other minor upgrades.

    He’s actually a good fit for us as he’s physical, can rebound, play decent defense, score inside and score threes and morey loves that.

    Negatives are he gets a little crazy, can make silly mistakes/clumsy and can have a low IQ on the court in stretches

    -Worst case Scenario we get- Deandre Jordan, he’s basically what capela is but capela has a higher ceiling and Jordan is only going down hill. Jordan has some advantages over capela, like strength, weight and experience. Jordan also has chemistry with Paul.

    Hopefully we just keep capela
     
  15. Corrosion

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    How do you intend to acquire Boogie ?! He's an unrestricted free agent who's going to command a max salary. You have NO CAP SPACE. You will have to come up with assets to give NO in a sign and trade ….. which will hard cap you and hamstring you in filling out the rest of the team. They aren't going to want anything to do with Anderson's 40m.


    DJ has a $24.1m player option ….. Do you really think he's going to turn that down to come play for the Rockets for the veterans minimum ?!
     
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  16. Why not?

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    Duncan is a once in a generation type of player. Most bigs develop slower, especially guys like Clint who picked up the game late (but even guys like Marc Gasol didn't blossom until late into their 20's).

    Clint has shown tremendous growth and has already outperformed what people expected of him. He was dominating consensus #1 pick a couple years ago, Karl-Anthony Towns in the playoffs this year as well as the All-Defensive 1st Teamer Rudy Gobert. A lot of "smart" people were talking about how they would take Towns over anyone else in the league to build their franchise around last off-season... yet our guy who gets "overwhelmed" by the big, strong players thrashed him. Who's bigger than Gobert? How many dinosaur centers like Steven Adams are even left in the league for Capela to face anymore? His quickness and shiftiness to switch onto guards and not give up an easy layup or open 3 is arguably his most valuable skill... most especially because how many other centers in the league can offer that? I'm not even slightly concerned about making sure we shut down guys like Steven Adams.

    Capela has grown in feel for the game more than anything else--and to me--that's what's most exciting about him. We have watched him learn the game and most everyone around the league has been amazed by what he is becoming. His offense is coming along. He was the most efficient finisher around the basket in the entire league this year at age 23. His ceiling is practically unlimited. Hopefully he's working with Hakeem already again as we speak!
     
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  17. JLOBABYDADDY

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    I thought he occupied the hell outta Draymond Green.......
     
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    He played damn well in game 7. One of the few reasons along with Tucker and Gordon it was close.
     
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  19. Corrosion

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    Put down that crack pipe ….
     
  20. Gorilladunks

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    What you people dont understand is it is easier to keep capela for a max deal and still get a lebron james on this team than it is to add jordan for a discount and get james. For jordan you have to sign him with cap space. After cap holds we dont have room for deandre jordan. We will have to do a sign and trade to get lebron james and shed salary through that. It will hard cap the team but capelas cap hold is low like around 10-11 million. It is so much easier to add something then go over with matching capela. We may just have capela deal already set up and tell him if he wants to stay do not sign an offer sheet if the current offer is acceptable
     
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