Rep Al Green: Extend Free Housing for Evacuees til 2008

Having a heart is good but there is also a benefit too to making sure that victims of Katrina continue to have housing. Making a lot of them homeless isn't going to help society.

 

yep but I won't allow a couple of dollars of my tax money to be used for housing these poor refugees coz whats the point of being rich if there are no poor people for me to see and compare and feel better..

i'd voluteer for them but they would have to stay homeless and poor..

 

My dad came the US from Bangladesh with a total of like $50 in his pocket. He busted his ass, paid his way through school, and is now living the American dream.

 

good for your dad.. $50 only? so someone had to give him a place to stay first right?

 

^^^
I know someone who is really gullible...

That story just doesn't hold water.

 

like poeple here care what you believe in

 

Many people from South/Southeast Asia have a similar story...and the moral of that story is if you have the drive and will to succeed, you will.

 

I doubt they gave him a place to stay for 2 years. I had no problem giving these people help in the beginning. This is 2 years later.

My grandparents came here from Mexico with nothing and worked their way up without governmental assistance. So you don't NEED the government to help you out and even if you do get help you don't need to keep that assistance for 2 years.

 

ummm..no. i've been there. and i really wasn't trying to qualify it for you or prove it up, anyway.

 

No, he worked his ass off and paid rent just like the rest of us.

 

I don't think he is wrong for bringing the war into this convo. If someone's beef is that they don't want to spend some tax dollars to take care of american citizens, then why would that person want to spend a lot more money improving the welfare of foreigners (since we ain't finding any weapons and stuff). I just think it's funny that we always help folks elsewhere and plenty of people here live crap lives and need help.

 

I worked for a Staffing Company that specialized in industrial and unskilled labor. All of our offices were/are DYING for workers. We even hired two corporate people to do nothing but find qualified workers. They don't hire people with violent criminal records and they do give drug tests but if you can pass those two criteria there is PLENTY of work out there.

While we do temporary staffing, a large percentage of our business is temp to hire.

The great thing about working for a staffing company, especially if you have proven yourself reliable (i.e. you show up on time and stay the day) is that if you don't like one job they will find you another. If you are reliable they would keep you busy as long as you wanted to be busy.

Statements like "you think all poor people are just plain lazy and they don't deserve this.." is such a generalization that I can't even believe you said it. I don't think most people in this thread are saying "poor people are lazy". I think they are saying "lazy people are lazy". The people still living on the dole after two years are either lazy or just taking advantage of the free rent because they can (the latter I can't blame them for). Either type should be kicked out.

 

It's a somewhat valid point except that it's a faulty conclusion. It's possible to feel that both are a poor use of resources. His argument left no room for that.

At the same time $400M is still $400M and he forgets to mention that we've already helped them out for a year and a half. That's plenty of time to settle yourself.

 

I tried realy hard to win American Idol but I didn't.

 

so how did he get an apartment with only 50 dollars and no bank account?

at least 5-10 bucks would be spent on the cab ride to anywhere right?

etc.

these stories are nice for the picking up oneself from boot strap types but not all that accurate.

most of these stories forget the families and friends that are settled and help these people along.

 

but 4 years and 300 billion dollars isn't enough to do something that didn't need to be done.

the fact that iraq is brought up is the usually the same people who oppose helping the poor because god forbid their taxes are used for something they dont care for are the same people who are for the war.

a civilized society has a duty to help people in need. im sorry yall have problems living in a modern wealthy nation that might provide housing for those who have none. living in a civilized modern nation is a b**** huh?

 

You may have a problem engaging in a civil conversation without resorting to vulgarity but it doesn't help your case.

You're making the false assumption that everyone who believes this is wrong is also in favor of the Iraq war. I've not seen any concrete information on this.

As far as your last point, I just don't understand the notion that it's the government's job to help people who don't want to help themselves. I'm all for giving people a helping hand when they fall on hard times. 2 years is more than a helping hand. You may want to live in a socialist society but you're in the wrong country if you do.

As for whoever said that our "bootstrap" stories are false, you have no idea what you're talking about as you don't know any of us personally. Your attempts to tell us what happened with our families history (including the fact that my grandparents were the first members of their family here and didn't stay with family) are ridiculous.

 

whats ridiculous is your desire to extrapolate from one story a public policy.

as far as living in a socialist society...i dont know. but i know in new york city the top tax bracket pays 48% in tax. i dont know why you would assume we don't redistribute via taxes.

 

Point to me where I say that there aren't examples of "redistribution" and then I'll answer your question. Otherwise don't tell me that I assume that we don't. Then I'll explain the difference between "don't" and "should."

 

Just curious when did your dad come here?