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Remind you of Nazi Ghettos?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by F.D. Khan, Apr 15, 2002.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    You mean like Hezbullah has done after Israel pulled out of Lebanon?
     
  2. COMPAQ CENTER

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    I am not sure what are you talking about. The Palestinians are the bravest people on earth. They do not fear death. Have you seen the Palestinian kids throwing rocks at Israeli soldiers and the hunderds dying in Jenin.

    Pardon me. The Israeli soldiers do not distingish between children, women, elders, militants. They have instructions to kill them all if needed. They demolish houses on top of innocents heads.
     
  3. right1

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    Violence can be compared to violence. War can be compared to war. And armies can be compared to armies. There is evil and there is good in both Israelis and Palestinians, Muslims and Jews. There is good in the young Palestinian child wandering through the streets alone. There is evil in the Israeli soldiers who ordered the nurse not to help her. Comparing heinous acts commited by hateful 19 year-old soldiers in the Israeli army to attrocities commited by hateful 19 year-old Palestinian suicide bombers is not stupid. And they can both be compared to Nazi soldiers and the hatred that they bred.
     
  4. right1

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    Insteading of spending so much of our tax money on weapons for Israel, what if we used a little for supplying Palestinians with solar energy for their homes, schools and hospitals and to pump and filter clean drinking water. Maybe with freedom and a little help they could start to produce some of their own food, clothing and medicine. Maybe they could have good schools and live in a peaceful community. Helicopter gunships will not stop the HATE that is learned by the children. Peace, help and LOVE will.
     
  5. subtomic

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    And if Israel's military would quit hiding behind tanks and other military vehicles donated by the US, maybe then nobody other than Israeli soldiers would get hurt.

    Both sides are acting like barbarians. I wish the entire region would fall into the Mediterranean.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Gang,

    This whole situation is dispicable, and I for one am sick of it.

    The US should tell Israel to back off, or we are taking back our funding of them.

    Then we should tell the rest of the Middle East that if they keep harrassing Israel we will come in to their countries and open up a can of whop ass on them too.

    These two countries are like litte brats, time to give each one a spanking.

    DaDakota
     
  7. Franchise2001

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    You have to be kidding me... the bravest people on earth? Do you consider blowing up a pizza parlor, a disco, a freaking PASSOVER seder brave? These people are the biggest COWARDS... to send your children into die for you. Truly sad to send the Palestinian's future to protect a past of violence.
     
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    Or MAYBE, if they had fought back by any means necessary,
    6 million of them would not be dead today.
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    My God, you are completely ignorant of World War II and Holocaust history, aren't you! Do you know how to read? My guess is no.
     
  11. RocketMan Tex

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    No they didn't. They were too busy getting killed to have any time to dress up in costumes for "protests".
     
  12. Oski2005

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    Man, seeing those pictures of kids was pretty sad. No childhood, no innocence, and no future. Groups like Hamas are definately cowards because they find people my age to do their dirty work for them. It's like that video where Osama Bin Laden is laughing about some of the 9/11 suicide hijackers who didn't know they were on a suicide mission. I don't agree with the suicide bombers, but I don't see how you can call someone who would strap a bomb to themself a coward. It's brave, but not heroic. I wonder what am I willing to die for, I mean I wouldn't take a bullet for the president, but I suppose I would die for my family. That being said, I think we all here would probably die to save our families. That is exactly what those teenage sucide bombers believe they are doing, dying to force Isreal to give back thier families land. This is the problem on both sides, they think they are going to accomplish thier goals doing what they are doing, instead they are just causing more violence.
     
  13. F.D. Khan

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    RocketmanTex

    The Jews were forced into Ghetto's earlier and then later into concentration camps. Years later in the war was when the
    "final solution" came to be.

    All i'm saying is that Israeli Tactics of Forcing people out of their homes into refugee camps (which are like Ghetto's) and now they are living under a governement that sees them as second class people with little to no rights and forced to live in camps with little running water and food.

    The cold, ruthlessness in which they are killing innocent Palestinians (along with militants) is very Naziesque, i'm sorry to say. Their propaganda of the media to demonize a people would have made the Nazi's proud. The reports of the atrocities under Ariel Sharon are well documented, even were noted by Israeli courts in 1982 and he doesn't seem to have changed his stripes all that much after 20 years. You would think the souls of close to 2000 men, women and children would haunt him.

    If the Jews would have organized a stronger resistance while in the Ghetto's (which they did and were called terrorists at the time), maybe some of that tragedy would have been averted.
    If they would have caused enough noise to get international support maybe, just maybe many would not have died.
     
  14. RocketMan Tex

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    FD, no offense, but that statement of yours proves without a doubt to me that you don't know a damn thing about the Holocaust. It also convinces me that arguing with you about it is a pure waste of my time.
     
  15. COMPAQ CENTER

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    I was not referring to the suicide bombers as brave if you read my post carefully. But the real cowards are the Israeli soldiers hiding inside the tanks and demolishing every thing in front of them and treating people worse than animals. They would not allow ambulances to help the the injured and would kill inoccent people.

    Have you seen them on american TV when they go door to door. They are treating all the palestinians as criminals. Those bastards are inhumane.
     
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    F.D. Khan,

    I love this... how much have you studied WWII and the holocaust? Oh the poor Palestinians, they have done nothing.. all they want to do is live peacefully and create a successful society. Well F.D., I have bad news for you, THE JEWS IN WWII were COMPLETELY INNOCENT and the Palestinian Militants are guilty of attempting ETHNIC CLENSING. Yes my views may be a little extreme, but it is written in their charters and preached in their mosques.

    The Jews were forced into Ghetto's earlier and then later into concentration camps. Years later in the war was when the
    "final solution" came to be.

    All i'm saying is that Israeli Tactics of Forcing people out of their homes into refugee camps (which are like Ghetto's) and now they are living under a governement that sees them as second class people with little to no rights and forced to live in camps with little running water and food.


    Yes, Jews were forced into Ghettos and later duped into work camps. Lets compare this to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Was all the palestinian land that is today owned by jews all "stolen"? No.. many many many Palestinians SOLD their land to jews. The Jews in Israel built many beautiful cities in land that was GIVEN to them. A lot of this land was just desert before the Jews were there. To say that all of Israel was taken is total BS propaganda. But I must confess that certain Jewish individuals were sick enough to kick palestinians off(I have read reports of Jews being kicked out of arab towns also).

    Maybe they are seen as second class citizens because many want to DESTROY ISRAEL.. I wouldnt consider you my best friend or even an equal if you wanted to kill me. About the human rights of the palestinians though... if they can buy 50 tons of weapons, they can buy 500 tons of food.

    The cold, ruthlessness in which they are killing innocent Palestinians (along with militants) is very Naziesque, i'm sorry to say. Their propaganda of the media to demonize a people would have made the Nazi's proud. The reports of the atrocities under Ariel Sharon are well documented, even were noted by Israeli courts in 1982 and he doesn't seem to have changed his stripes all that much after 20 years. You would think the souls of close to 2000 men, women and children would haunt him.

    Excuse me.. THE RUTHLESSNESS of palestninian militants is very naziesque. Anyone who they think is spying on the for Israel is immediately EXECUTED. If Israel is so much like Nazi Germany, why do they prefer to take militants as PRISONERS if they surrender? Lets talk about the arab media... I think everyone read a few weeks ago how Jews use arab blood for the passover meal(something close to this).. talk about demonizing.. maybe the Palestinians learned this from the Nazis when they SUPPORTED them in WWII. Yes, thats right, the Palestinians had friendly ties with Nazi Germany. If you disagree with me, visit Yad Va'shem(Holocaust Memorial in Israel) or other Holocaust Museums.

    If the 2000 souls of men, women and children you speak of are the ones massacred in Sabra and Shatilla then you are most likely WRONG. Sharon has never been convicted of any murders for this and he had no idea that the people were going to die. This massacre falls solely in the hands of the Lebanese Christians who were sick of Palestinians that murdered and killed their people(just like they do to Israel today)

    If the Jews would have organized a stronger resistance while in the Ghetto's (which they did and were called terrorists at the time), maybe some of that tragedy would have been averted.
    If they would have caused enough noise to get international support maybe, just maybe many would not have died.


    Maybe if you knew anything about this you would know that any Jewish resistance movements were immediately CRUSHED. The Jews had no international support. The British knew of the killings in concentration camps because they had cracked Nazi Codes. However, they did not want to help because it would give away their military advantage. There is some international support for you.

    F.D., to compare the Israelis to the Nazis is completely and utterly disgusting. The Nazi war machine was made to conquer europe and the world, while using hateful propaganda against the Jews to gain support. The Israeli DEFENSE Force is DEFENDING its citizens against those who want to destroy her. Israel must do what it takes to wipe out those who believe that Israel doesnt have the right to exist. And Palestinians must realize that suicide bombings just mean more death and destruction for themselves. The sad thing is that it is very hard to distinguish between those who are for or against Israel. Israel has shown almost too much restraint by going door to door instead of dropping daisy cutters.
     
  17. Franchise2001

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    Do you want the Israelis to ride in on bicycles? I am disturbed however of the way they won't let medical attention get in. However, this is a war and there is such thing as collateral damage. This will continue to happen if militants wont stop hiding behind their women and children . I can't justify innocent people dying, just like you can't justify a suicide bombings. You are no one to judge who is humane and inhumane. This conflict is bigger and has lasted longer than any of us could possibly fathom. Compared to the way Palestinians were treated during Black September in Jordan, the Israelis are treating Palestinians like brothers.
     
  18. COMPAQ CENTER

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    Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I can judge based on what resources I have seen, heard, read. You can not hide the truth.

    If you thought the Israeli soldiers were not brutal against innocent Plaestinians then I hope someday someone will treat you as the Israelis treated the Palestinians. Brother.
     
  19. right1

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    I think we can judge what kind of treatment is humane or inhumane, thankyou. Are we no one to judge the Nazi concentration camps as inhumane? Don't make idiotic statements, please. The only brother they are treating the Palestinians like is Abel.
     
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    The KKK are proud sponsers of the Palestinian Resistance Movement.
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    I personally have never had much respect for those who need to cover themselves with a sheet before pronouncing their message.
     
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