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Remember the time when TJones was a trade nobrainer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Feb 23, 2015.

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  1. sirbaihu

    sirbaihu Member

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    Sure, maybe Morey proposed something to the Suns. What's your point?
     
  2. malakas

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    maybe? lmao
    Forget it dude. Woj needs to make an account here and make a podcast for you to believe anything.
    I'm done responding to you.
    Jones was never part of any package and Morrey didn't go after Dragic. Because it's not in a podcast. ok.
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    You surrender.

    I didn't say anything about what Morey did.

    I said Jones for Dragic is a stupid idea. I said Capella would have made more sense than Jones. I said Clutch and BimaThug agree with me.

    You said the Rockets "for sure" offered Jones to the Suns, Bucks and Nuggets. Then you backed off that, then you surrendered.
     
  4. malakas

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    provide proof I said Morrey for sure offered Jones to the Bucks and Nuggets.
    Anyway this is useless because in your homeristic mind Capella is the offer Morrey made for Dragic and Suns were so stupid as to listen to him.
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    Oh, only Phoenix was "for sure" to you. Nuggets and Bucks were your suspicions.

    Dude, I never said Morey proposed anything.

    I said Jones for Dragic was a stupid idea. (Maybe that's why there's no report of such a stupid proposal.)

    And Clutch and BimaThug also thought such a trade was beyond consideration. But you and CyberX think Morey proposed this stupid trade and the Suns rejected it. All right.
     
  6. DrNuegebauer

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    He isn't even attacking you...

    He is refuting the claim that Jones was offered around, and everyone laughed at the Rockets. Which then became 'Suns, Bucks, Nuggets', which then became radio silence.
    There is no proof Morey offered Jones to any of those teams. The only supposed scoops we have are that the Suns asked for DMo and the Pelicans pick (and did Morey laugh at them?). Given all that we know of how Morey (one r) operates, once he heard that Dragic was not going to resign with Houston, he is more likely to have offered Nick Johnson and Shved than Jones.
    You might not realize it, but your step by step logic doesn't make sense. It is based on your presupposition that Morey offered Jones, so therefore it cannot prove that Morey offered Jones. It is just circular!

    Don't take it personal, don't become a jpotmac! Stick around and continue offering your insights - we like having you here.
     
  7. apollo33

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    I can understand if Jones wasn't proposed at all by Morey, his value was probably at a all time low given his injury issues and the fact he didn't play much all season.

    Teams rejecting him really doesn't mean much in his true ability, if I were the other GM's I'd be suspect too of Jones's ability to bounce back after those knee nerve issues.

    And LOL @ people comparing him to TRob.. please, let's not get carried away, we had TRob for a season, he really isn't much of anything.
     
  8. malakas

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    Not. I had not even a suspicion that Rockets went after Knight. I don't think a deal could possibly be made with the current Rockets assets. Another poster said it.

    If you think that's a stupid proposal that's your opinion. The fact is that Morrey did go after Dragic with a serious enough offer that the Suns considered it till the end. If you now choose to believe that the serious offer that rivalled the Miami one of two unprotected firsts, till the end of the deadline, was consisted of Capella and a late lottery pick that's beyond homerism.
    And I am a fan. Don't put me and Cyberx in the same regard. Cyberx is an insider with actual insider info.
    Maybe he doesn't make podcasts that's why you don't believe him. :rolleyes:
    Whatever.
    It didn't happen.
    Jones is a great player and Morrey is up to trade everyone for the right price. Including Jones. Let's see what happens.
     
  9. malakas

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    I don't know who jpotmac is. However read my other posts to see how the most logical conclusions is that Morrey ended up offering the very next less valuable asset than DMO => Jones and made an offer good enough for the Suns to consider it till the end.
    If you don't agree that for a rental of Dragic Jones should be offered thats ANOTHER story.
    Anyway I'm out of this thread. We will NEVER know the truth because failled trades dont' come out due to serious locker room problems with the players.
    Just look at how angry now Crawford is at Doc. And rightfully so.
    Morrey is smarter than that.
     
  10. sirbaihu

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    OK. I don't know where Knight's coming into it.

    I'm not speculating what Morey did, but evidently it was not a good enough offer.

    I've got no comment on CyberX. But I do trust Clutch and BimaThug more, yes.
     
  11. Htownballer38

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    Everybody and their momma knew we were targeting Goran. He fits our system perfectly. But as far as what was proposed, only Morey and our staff knows that information broham.
     
  12. BimaThug

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    Hey, I'm not taking any sides here, but neither Clutch nor I had any insider info on trade deadline possibilities. We were just speculating. For all we know, Jones may have been offered to other teams.
     
  13. DrNuegebauer

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    I believe sirbaihu is simply suggesting your logical speculation is >> than the logical speculation of another....
     
  14. ThatboyPhuong

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    I was like the only guy who was against trading tjones.
     
  15. mfastx

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    Another strong game for him tonight, a ho hum 14 and 8 with 5 blocks!

    I was okay with trading him for a clear upgrade at PG, but I also believe that he can be a starting or key bench guy on a championship caliber team as well.

    If Dwight gets back he may still start over DMo, time will tell.
     
  16. saleem

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    I am very happy with Jones' performance. He showed a lot of toughness. I like D-Mo too. It doesn't matter to me who starts, I hope both will keep on improving.
     
  17. peleincubus

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    i still think jones is better as a starter on this team currently. he is a higher energy guy then dmo that fits well with the other starters. and dmo's post ups could mix better with brewer/smith/terry/prigoni.

    just my opinion
     
  18. jump shooter

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    Can you imagine a possible bench of DMO, Smith, Brewer, Terry and Beverly with maybe starting Prigioni. That would be one the best bench's in the league period.
     
  19. Shroopy2

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    I wish it was debunked.
    www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/joneste01/splits/

    Look at his career numbers and shooting % against those same teams I mentioned the Blazers, Clippers and Grizzlies (add in the Bulls). Theyre not good, well below what he does against everyone else

    Ive been on the TJones bandwagon since his first summer league. He's had some examples of good play vs good pfs like Tim Duncan and Anthony Davis. But again is lacking against certain good teams in the Rockets direct path to contention

    Jones recent good performance vs Clips shows hr is capable, have to be encouraged by that
     
  20. sirbaihu

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    Thank you, Doctor. That was my feeling as well. I was praising Bima's judgment. I'm not into the "insider" game.
     

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