"Religion of Peace" in Bangladesh

Muslims slaughtering innocents all over the world every week, nothing changes

 

All I am saying that it's very important to separate out extremist Islam from mainstream Islam.

I really don't care about what the founder of Islam was or was about - how much is fact, fiction or whatnot is for historians and religious scholars to figure out. But the fact that is important is that 100's of millions of Muslims believe their religion means peace.

And than you have groups like ISIS who believe in a different version.

Which version is correct or not may not be material rather than embracing and empowering the version that is compatible with the modern world. Islam can become whatever their believer make it as that's the nature of a religion - it's an institution as much as it is a historical book.

Like I said, it's one thing to be critical of those parts of the world that encourages backwards treatment of people and criticize the Imams who support those backwards practices. But you aren't going to get very far attacking people's religions.

Criticize the practices, criticize the people doing those practices. When you go after the religion itself, what happens is you will more than like entrench people into hardened positions and less change will be possible. That's my opinion.

 

So I see two issues.

1. Identify what is the underlying problem(s) behind all these terrorist attacks
2. Decide on how to solve that problem.

On the first part, suppose we identify the primary problem as Islam at its core rather than an ideology of militant revolution and anti-Western sentiment that selectively uses Islamic scripture as a pretext for violence. How does that distinction impact how we go about finding a pragmatic solutions for all these attacks? Honest question -- I'm not denying that it might.

Frankly, every time I see people make sarcastic "Religion of Peace" posts, I wonder what the motivation really is behind it. Not that I don't instinctively have similar thoughts, when I see things like this in the news time and time again. But are we perhaps just looking for a reason to blame all Muslims for these attacks? Do we gravitate towards this because it makes us feel better to be able to say, "This is what YOUR beliefs lead to. Shame on you."? Where does this train of thought really lead us?

 

To clarify, terrorists do need educated individuals and target engineers much like an army needs educated individuals. However, Muslims as a group are still poor and uneducated by developed country standards.

 

So then why do you make these threads? You don't seem to offer any solutions and stick to the mantra " of any idiot can tell you there is an issue, but what's the solution"?

 

The truth? That's a subjective matter in cases like this, especially for a religion that spans many centuries. The Ottoman Empire (the most recent Islamic empire) is pretty interesting because it shows how varied the beliefs are.

 

Their job is to provide the news.... Is that your job or do you have some alternative motive?

Can you answer what your solution or you going to deflect? Are you any idiot or something else? Now is your chance to show me.

 

So you decided to DEFLECT and the play the "any idiot" role. Interesting choice but not surprising.... It's easier to be an idiot than offer solutions.

BBS is a discussion forum.... And you just admitted you can't discuss YOUR topic..... Seems like a theme with you..... A weak person theme to clarify.

 

I give you credit in that you forced me to articulate myself a lot better.

I'm glad we can have a discussion without any negative energy erupting from either one of us.

 

Interesting insight. Maybe it's a rebuttal to a previous one. I still remember Dream saying that when MAR refused to stand up for the anthem because he said the nation represented all the bad things...

 

Nowhere constructively. But that's not the point of these type of threads.

 

You paints your simplistic views exactly the way Hitler used to do

 

There are a number of important beliefs held by mainstream Islam this is absolutely not comparable with the modern world. Either Muslims become secular or there will continue to be major issues.

You can call yourself or your faith anything you want, but it doesn't make it true. Donald Trump says he isn't a racist, the Catholic Church for years claimed it didn't have a sexual abuse problem.... Just because you want it to be so doesn't make it so. Also peace on your own terms isn't really peace. When a religion labels itself something I am dubious of it. There are certainly peaceful Muslims, as there are Christians and Pagans... but that doesn't make the faith especially peaceful compared to other faiths or the faithless.

 

Mohammed was an evil murderer and pedophile and ISIS espouses inerrantly the views of Mohammed. Islam IS the problem. There are people who call themselves "Muslim" and are fine people, but to be so requires rejecting what is, in fact, Islam. The Quran is a guide to genocide against civilization.

 

You're clearly a fine person. The world needs more people like you.