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Religion of Peace: bombs in Stockholm

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    showtang posted it above. It is a very ignorant and stupid statement. Someone like that should not even be on the air.
     
  2. PointForward

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    Beck's figure is obviously too low. ATW's number crunch clearly indicates that eleventy billion percent of all muslims are terrorists.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Any comment on the bombing in the name of islam in Stockholm, which is the topic of this thread?
     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    What an awesome post. Your rep points will be delivered shortly.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    On topic, I would actually rejoice that the idiotic part of the gene pool is eliminating itself if I wasn't so saddened by the loss of anyone's life.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Liar Mathloom, you said you want these cartoonists to live in fear for the rest of their lives. Do you think this incident will increase these cartoonists' fear?
     
  7. meh

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    Well, obviously state-supported mass killings are much, much better than these terrorists. I mean, suicide bombers are just so icky and distasteful. Don't they know that it's much better to use tanks, bombers, apaches, cruise missiles, etc.? And that if you're going to fight another country, you should take over them rather than using dink-and-donk techniques?
     
  8. penda45

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    Couldn't help but notice that the "top 25" documented terrorist attacks were all after the year 1975... I am very sure that this History was documented prior to 1975, I mean in my opinion Pearl Harbor could be counted as a Terrorist attack which took over 2000 deaths. The dead give away terrorist attack is the Holocaust, I mean heck even the A-Bomb drops in Japan could be counted as a terrorist attack depending on the person's perception of the event. I am not that keen in history but I am very sure that there are a lot more that could be included in this list that happened between 1940 to 1975 and not committed by Muslims.

    I am also surprised the Rwanda Genocide is not in the terrorist attacks list, I would like to know what MSNBC's definition of a terrorist attack is.
     
  9. ILoveTheRockets

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    You also left out that the "National Liberation Front of Tripura" is not even acknowledged by major Christan groups. So get your facts straight bubba.

    Islamic extremist groups ARE supported by a MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS including majority of Islamic Circles. And that sir, is a fact.


    What about all the crazy ass atheist, how do you suggest on getting rid of them since they have absolutely no ties to any religion at all?
     
  10. Ubiquitin

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    No, they are not.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Bully pulpit, strikes again, fear is the weapon.

    What eventually might happen is countries close their borders and ship aliens back to their own countries.

    DD
     
  12. Ubiquitin

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    Does crime become terrorism when it is done by a Muslim?

    Are murderers terrorists?

    People are murdered almost everyday in every major city, but it is not terrorism.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Just like in any murder you need to find the motive, and if that motive is someone else that influenced them, they are just as culpable....

    DD
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    "Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or ideological goal, deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians), and are committed by non-government agencies."

    A murder out of greed or jealousy or for no reason at all is different from one that explicitly states that is done in the name of a religion. This suicide bomber here explicitly stated that he wants Swedish people to die because he feels that they insulted his religion (because of a cartoon...!!).

    If the guy had been Muslim, but it was a bank robbery, then it would not be terrorism and his religion would not matter.

    But in this case (and many other cases of bombings and terrorism in the world) it is different: It's not just that he tried to kill people and by chance, he was also a Muslim. It's that he tried to kill people because of how he identified with islam. So Azadre, there is no random correlation as you imply, in his mind, the religion was the motivating cause.

    Do you see the difference?
     
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    Islam needs to make denouncing and squelching terror their #1 priority. They are not doing enough now.
     
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    Bullseye.
     
  17. Northside Storm

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    um.

    uh.

    Napoleon was a dinosaur, and that sir, is a fact. cause i said so, ya know.

    Anyways, what do I propose to do with crazy ass atheists when it comes to religious extremism? dunno. smoke a j with them and head out together to sinville?
     
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    Rwandan Genocide was technically a state action, though as I've often stated, if one looks into the last few genocides (Serbian, Burundian, Rwandan), one quickly sees that the perpetrators are Christian and that their religion played some role (The Catholic Church in Rwanda for example, encouraged the active division between Hutus and Tutsis through institutional separation and propaganda).

    which, if you've been paying attention to how right wing pundits treat Islamic extremism, means many Christians are genocidal and that Christians are not doing enough to stop and censor genocide.
     
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    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Islamist-website-identifies-Stockholm-bomber/Article1-637677.aspx

    Islamist website identifies Stockholm bomber

    An Islamist website on Sunday identified the bomber behind Saturday's attacks in the Swedish capital Stockholm as Taymour Abdel Wahab and published a photograph it said was him. "It is our brother, mujahid Taymour Abdel Wahab, who carried out the martyrdom operation in Stockholm," said the website Shumukh al-Islam, which published a photograph of a man in dark glasses standing with his hands in his pockets.
    Twin blasts rocked a shopping street in central Stockholm on Saturday, killing a man suspected of being the bomber, and wounding two others.

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    Can any of the members of this website who are also members there please post the link and the picture. Thank you.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    The free world should target whomever makes that website. Fair is fair.

    DD
     

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