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Relax Tmac. Just put it all on Shane

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zboy, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. ind0fo0

    ind0fo0 Member

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    that is a very good point.

    he did not say that alston was effective/ineffective but that you simply cannot rely on 1 pg to play lockdown d on deron the entire game. sure fire way to lose.
     
  2. Pringles

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    when battier and tmac is playing at the same time... i just want battier off of harping, dont' care who he is guarding, and make sure tmac guards harping personally.
     
  3. BucMan55

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    He said Deron used and abused Rafer. I posted his stats for the series as a way to say: "Not really."
     
  4. RoxSqaud

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    I would try it if he kills us in game one........But we need to start with Bjax on Deron.........If williams dominates our PG's then We have to do something in game 2.........Try Shane on him for about 7-8 minutes......See if he can hang.....

    But we cant start off like that........Give our Pgs a chance to prove themselves.......

    ~ROX~
     
  5. Asian Sensation

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    LOL @ 16 ppg and 8 APG. Where did you get those numbers from?

    Try more like 11ppg and 5 APG with 2.5 TO while shooting 33%
     
  6. McGradySNKT

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    Somebody should've told assistant coach Gundy that, but then again it was all Tmac's fault anyhow
     
  7. Asian Sensation

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    Check his stats again. I wished you were right but it couldn't be further from the truth.
     
  8. BucMan55

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    Deron Williams in the 07 play-off series averaged 16.3ppg and a hair over 8 assists per game. The assists were aided by a huge bump of 14 in game 7. Otherwise its in the 7 range.
     
  9. Pringles

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    actually, then, i wanted snyder to go get harping. but tmac works fine too. :D but now that we have a better offensive plan, i thought tmac has a lil more energy to go out there and play hard defense.
     
  10. Asian Sensation

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    My bad, I thought you were saying Rafer averaged 16 and 8 in the series.
     
  11. BucMan55

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    If you add up Deron Williams points for each game in teh 07 series, then divide by 7 you get 16.3 as an average. If you then add up his assists and divide by 7 you get 8.4 as an average.

    Deron Williams

    Game 7 20 pts 14 ast
    Game 6 15 pts 8 ast
    Game 5 13 pts 6 ast
    Game 4 25 pts 7 ast
    Game 3 11 pts 8 ast
    Game 2 15 pts 7 ast
    Game 1 15 pts 9 ast
     
  12. Bigpetelikeiron

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    this strategy could work well. you would kick whichever point guard over to brewer and mac on ak. they were having mac defend ak the last game and that was working ok but the problem was our transition d. brewer was killing us gettin loose and firing away with easy opportuinity baskets. we gotta watch that. I mean you gotta know that boozer is gonna get his bc we dont have the size to stop that damn high arching jumper he has but scola landry and harris are hustlers and they gotta use that to get rebounds. and their youth and quickness to make sure and get out to that three point line and check okur which was another thing that was hurting us last year. all that said i think when rafer gets back we'll be ok. rafer is a solid defensive point. dwill put up numbers bc he is one of the best not bc rafer sucks at d. the difference is being able to hold those guys to reasonable numbers and not getting taken advantage of to tune of 25 ppg and 10+ assists a game which dwill is very capable of doing.
     
  13. H-townhero

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    put Shane on Boozer 1on1 and put one of our power forwards on kirelenko
     
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    ...FYI, San Antonio uses this quite effectivly...Bowen on Deron. Although San Antonio seems to like to switch Bowen on everybody...Bowen on Nash, Bowen on Kobe...

    Still, not too sure who Parker switched off on. I think Giricek, although for this year, I think it'd mean a mismatch if we attempted that (PG vs Korver/Brewer)
     
  15. Pringles

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    our pg should be able to handle a shooter, but don't think they can do that with brewer.
     
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    I don't think it will work cause Boozer may be too strong for shane and AK is too quick for our PFs.
     
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    I've seen Korver lately and he's not just a shooter anymore. He posts up sometimes and has a little turnaround jumper. He might not be athletic but he's certainly not one dimensional in the offensive end.
     
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    I've heard this mentioned a few times and I have to say I like the idea provided it doesn't create a bad mismatch in favor of Utah somewhere else.
     
  19. BucMan55

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    Yeah, when your player isnt guarding the player that guards them it can cause issues in transition. The Rockets had some issues with this earlier this year where the guy guarding Battier would release early when T-Mac drove and dished or shot getting easy open floor chances while T-Mac was under the basket. If the guy supposed to be guarding you is under the bucket while you are out on the perimeter, just release on the shot and get some easy fast break chances. Seems like a logical advantage to having cross matchups.
     
  20. DrNuegebauer

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    Shane just isn't laterally quick enough to stay in front of Deron.

    It's a terrible idea! Not only would Shane get killed, but so would our PG trying to guard AK47 (who has enough game to have averaged 16ppg for an entire season before) - he'll know what to do with the 6'1 Jackson or the 6'0 Brooks in the paint.

    Just because someone is an elite defender does NOT mean they can guard any position. If Shane could guard PG's then he would've been shutting down CP3, Parker etc all season long for us. But he can't, so he doesn't and he hasn't!

    He's a "big wing" defender - and is about the most effective in the league at it too. He's also a great 'team talk' defender, so he communicates real well with screens, and movement. I think we'll see him cheating off AK47 at the 3 point line to slide in and double Williams when he drives. If Kirilenko beats us from downtown, then we're done! But most likely that won't work, so the Jazz will be forced to bring him closer to the hoop (to take the 'dump off') which will allow Battier to be closer to help around the rim and will (most likely) clog the lane up. [or the exact reverse could happen and it would still work!]

    I think he'll really help our defense without being 'on-ball' by making Kirilenko (or Brewer for that fact) play in a spot they don't want to be.
     

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