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[Relationships] Getting out of a bad long-term one...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Isabel, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Deckard

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    Stick a fork in it already, Isabel. :eek:
     
  2. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Oh oh, I know what amfootball would do here. She would steeltoe Ferdie's ass all the way back to Spain! :p ;)

    Seriously, like others have said there is nothing you can say that will make this better. Ferdie is desperate and when people get to that state, they are not going to be reasonable. You would be better off by having as little conversations with him as possible. Hell, he has his mother to keep him company; let's just hope he doesn't become a real-life Norman Bates. :eek: :eek:
     
  3. VesceySux

    VesceySux World Champion Lurker
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    Wait. People actually talk like this? :eek:
     
  4. Faos

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  5. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    It reads like an e-mail to me.
     
  6. Isabel

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    Yes, believe it or not. This is not an email. The parts in quotes are taken verbatim from actual phone conversations, and I typed them as soon as he said them. I've never known anyone else to talk like this either, but this guy does.

    (while I'm glad for the anonymity of this bbs, too bad I can't appear in person just to do my Ferdinand impersonation - the tone of voice, which usually comes across as kind of harsh.) He is one different dude. Maybe I should be giving him another chance, or be nicer to him :( , but my instinct says he's just not a very nice person.
     
  7. Rocket G

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    Just end it Isabel.

    Seriously.

    It does neither of you any good to keep up the charade.

    End it & end the misery.

    You are already hurting yourself enough, and are hurting him more by dragging it out, than you will by just being honest & determined.

    End it clearly & with conviction.
     
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  8. Falcons Talon

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    You have been married to him longer than any of us would have tolerated him, so if anyone here should trust their instincts, it's you. Stay strong. He has to accept the situation. He has no other choice. Be careful that he doesn't switch gears on you and admit all his faults. He was able to act in a way the caught your eye before, so he obviuosly knows what to do. He might remember what he did right and act that way again. The operative word is ACT. There are too many cliche's to explain this behavior...a leopard can't change his spots, you can't teach an old dog new tricks, etc...
     
  9. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    You perpetuate this behavior with your indecision. Why are you so focused on making Ferdinand into the bad guy? Not trying to assign blame (don't have the context or inclination to do so) but you're spending an inordinate amount of time and bandwidth painting this picture of Ferdinand...who are you trying to convince? Why is it even important? You realize this is an unhealthy situation, you understand the solution, why spend another minute focused on him?
     
  10. lalala902102001

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    Let me tell you how I ended my last long-term relationship:

    I told her "it's ****ing over",

    and I moved out of town the very next day.
     
  11. Kyakko

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    a wise man once said... "when you get to the end of the story, close the book"
     
  12. Falcons Talon

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    I wouldn't necessarily say to move out of town. You should not have to change your life because your ex can not accept the fact that it's over. If he continues to hound and harass her, I say file for a restraining order. I just hope he'll be able to accept the truth of the matter that it's over.
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    Oh of course. :)
     
  14. Harrisment

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    Come on Izzy, we need the latest! :)
     
  15. Isabel

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    (darn it... I wrote a long response to this and the computer logged me out and ate it... I'll try to recreate it, and faster, but it's too bad :( )

    See, I always worry that I'm really the bad guy, since you only see my side, and that you don't see it and neither do I. I mean, I hope that's not true, but I often think - how many people are out there who are clueless or psycho or evil or manipulative but don't realize it? I really hope it's not me. But, if it was, how would I know? So I'm just trying to put the evidence out there to see if I really have a case.

    At least he finally moved our discussion to email (after repeated requests from me whenever he would call), but... well, here's essentially what he said:

    "In case no one has told you before, you tend to
    be very melodramatic."
    (he goes on and on about it, accuses me of "using hyperbole", and says he can't tell when I'm being serious and that I wouldn't ever tell him when there was a problem)

    He claims that I've been collecting black marks against him in my head for a long time and he's finally accumulated too many.

    He accuses me of insensitivity and even some abusive behavior in the past (not sure what he's talking about even)... "but I love you, and I forgive and
    forget....all I remember is how upset you were and wishing I
    could help you feel better."

    Anyway, that's what he said. A lot of horsesh!t. I never exaggerated anything and was always clear about what the problems were, and told him as soon as we had them. I don't know where he gets the idea of the melodrama. The "but I love you, and I forgive and forget" right after the accusations sounds kind of like a manipulation tactic to me... being high and mighty, letting me know he's morally better than me. If he really just wished he could make me feel better, that would have been the main focus of most of his communication with me, both then and now.

    But... look, guys, I've always had low self-confidence. When I was young, I was behind for my age socially and not extremely popular with the boys. I was afraid that I would never be pretty or charming or socially adept enough to truly capture any guy's heart, and I hated that since I'm an affectionate person and wanted to be in a relationship, so I'd better take what I could get. Of course, I was 19 so I never even really found out what I could or couldn't get, but he seemed to offer stability and someone to listen to me. When you're young and uncertain, far away from home, tired of guys your age trying to use you, and just wanting comfort and a good friend, it seems tempting. And, even when the relationship turns out not to be so great, you want to hang onto it. When you do have the courage to try to break free, he convinces you otherwise. Just saying how I got into this. Unfortunately, it's probably made me emotionally worse instead of better.

    (and I wonder... what if it is my fault? What if everything he says is true somehow? How would I know any better? Not like I've had any other relationships to compare it with. :( )

    I've been kind of shaken up today, kind of sad. Don't worry, I think we're past the point of no return - myself and most of my possessions are already safely stashed somewhere else. It would take a deliberate act of moving back to ever get back together with him, and I don't think I could do that. But I go about my business knowing that I hurt someone else, that even his cat wonders why I'm moving my stuff out and I don't stay. And the reality is settling in emotionally: that I'm going to be all alone for a long time, that I'm not even special to anyone, that everyone sees me as just a friend. (ironic, since relationships scare the daylights out of me anyway right now) That I'm not as strong as I like deep down inside - that I'll be riding this emotional roller coaster, wanting comfort I can't have. It still "really sucks", I guess. Thanks again for listening and for all your support. You guys are great.
     
  16. Manny Ramirez

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    You watch your language, young lady! :p ;)

    Sorry to hear that you are having a rough time, Isabel. Unfortunately, it probably won't get any easier anytime soon. Just hang in there the best you can. But whatever you do, please for GOD'S SAKE do not cave and go back to this vermin. You can do better. You may not believe it, but you can. But you have to believe in yourself to achieve that.
     
  17. Kyakko

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    i'm starting to think you like feeling miserable... you just don't realize it.
     
  18. Isabel

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    No I don't, honestly. Why would you think that? :confused:

    I just like security... kept it in a bad relationship for far too long... having trouble dealing w/ this stuff and need a lot of sleep. But I'll make it. I appreciate getting to post in here. It's a hard time for me.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    Ave María Santísima, Elisabeth. Si lo quieres, déjalo ir. Si regresa, fue tuyo. Si no regresa, nunca lo fue.

    It's painful to read through your story. It freakin' hurts. :( Ouchie.

    Ay ay ay ay ay.
     
  20. 3814

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    we're all here for you...on the rebound :cool: :D
     

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