How come everyone on here just love to make things up? When did I say 1 trillion? You people are just ridiculous. I have been ignoring your posts simply because you are ignorant and refuse to believe there is wasteful government spending. I told you to do a quick google search. Is that too hard for you? I guess if you think SteveFrancis rules you can believe in anything. There is simply no way I or anyone can type up all the waste that goes on in this board. Try this link for starters. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2009/10/50-Examples-of-Government-Waste and depending on your political views many consider having our military overseas and bases all around the world a waste. That is hundreds of billions of dollars every year. Many also consider the crazy TARP bills to be a waste and that the govt has no business bailing out private corporations. Let's not forget the figures on those were in the 700-900 billion dollar range. If you think the Govt is so perfect you are just clearly in denial. There is just waste from top to bottom. Have you ever worked in a Govt job? Not to flame anyone in Govt but there is quite a huge number of employees who are not qualified, not motivated or just don't give a crap and just sit around and does nothing all day simply because they can't get fired. They just collect their paychecks and eventually their pensions. Of course there are plenty of people that do a good job but because the Govt is not run like a business and employees have no fear of being fired they become complacent and lazy.
You mean the TARP program, most of which has been paid back at a net profit to the UST and which prevented the financial system from destroying itself? Please elaborate on how this contributed to the trillion in waste - thanks in advance! Failing that, which you no doubt will, why don't you explain why with the lack of grasp of facts that you just showed us, anybody should bother to take you seriously?
You talked about wasteful spending being the answer to our ($1 trillion) deficit problem. You ignored the fact that wasteful spending doesn't account for anything near what our deficit is, which was the reason people started asking you to identify what you think is wasteful spending. You misunderstand. People don't believe there is enough wasteful spending to cover the entire deficit, which again is the reason that people started asking you to identify a trillion dollars of wasteful spending. You made an assertion and then asked people who asked for clarification to look it up for themselves. It is not incumbent on anyone to do the research to prove your point, that is up to you. Finally, you start answering questions that were first asked of you on the second page of this thread. FWIW, I agree about military spending. We could cut our military spending in half and I would still think we spend too much on the military. Of course, it looks like TARP will either break even or make a small profit, so this wouldn't count as "wasteful spending," especially since TARP helped us to avoid a much worse recession. And will probably at least break even. Straw man, nobody has said that the government is "perfect," in fact nobody has been defending government spending at all. You made that up. People have been asking you to identify "wasteful spending" that would retire the deficit. Riiiiiight. Everyone in government is unqualified, lazy, and complacent. Sounds like you have been watching Beck or listening to Limbaugh again. That particular problem can be solved by switching off the TV or radio and reading your news so that you get information that is untainted by the opinion of those a$$hats.
lol fail. When did francis_rules say that? Pot-Kettle on the "words in mouth accusation", my friend. Francis wanted to know what you would cut to get back 1 trillion+ in defecits without raising taxes. As you may recall, you stated that the latter was "never the answer" and you lamented that going after wasteful spending was a far more honorable pursuit. Accordingly...what do you cut? There is a lot of waste but TARP is not one. Most everyone now agrees with that. I don't like the principle it embodied either, but you cannot argue it was wasteful when most of the money has been returned. lol who said that? Man you just don't know when to stop typing do you? I was a federal contractor. Does that count? Yep. This is true in most large businesses too. It's called beurocracy. There are ****-ton of lazy folks in private industry too, most of whom leech along without much fear of job security. Stop being so silly. EDIT: Gladiator beat me.
so you admit that you said it applies to Obama supporters and deny that it applies to non-Obama supporters correct?
Ordinarily, I would respond to this post since you addressed it to me. However, GladiatoRowdy and rhadamanthus have already done an outstanding job at tearing your post to shreds, so I'll just recommend that you re-read each of their posts.
That doesn't mean cap n' trade is not being detrimental to their economy. I also fail to see any evidence that CNT is going to have any positive impact. We're fighting the wrong war here if we're going after C02 by "cap n trade". If you really want to stop global warming, people need to figure out ways than just giving dis-incentives to buy oil. Appeal to their self interest.
It would be even funnier if it weren't true. People who get their "facts" from Fox are deluded and the scary part is, they don't care that they are being lied to on a daily basis.
Fox is the only news network with a conservative slant. I admit that. The other news networks have a liberal slant. Will you admit that? It is funny how Fox is kicking all the other networks butts. Since Obama has taken office they have increased their viewership. There is a reason for that and it isn't because Fox is lying. Other than the opinion shows (O' Reilly, Hannity, Beck), Fox presents both sides pretty well. The other networks are rather lacking in that regard. Most people are tired of the liberal / Democrat cheerleader networks. The numbers back this up http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/cable-news
If you are talking about MSNBC, I do agree. On CNN and the major networks, not as much. For me, it doesn't matter because I don't watch any of that garbage. IMO, it is in large part because they are lying. Keep in mind that I include hyperbole, misrepresentations, and logical fallacies in my definition of "lying" for the purposes of this discussion. Every time they use the tag line "Fair and Balanced," they are lying IMO because that tag line is simply not true. No, Fox presents their side of the argument against the straw men they create to knock down, at least from what I have seen. I would expect you to believe this, given that you have heard it time and again from Fox commentators. Keep in mind that parroting a lie is not too far from lying. Fox is the best at using fear, uncertainty, and disinformation to keep their viewers. They tell y'all that everyone else is hopelessly biased, they work hard to make sure their viewers are angry (at other Americans, for f*** sake), and even their tag line is a lie. Feel free to be led by the nose, but I will keep getting my news from real journalists. AP and Reuters may have flaws, but at least they do basic fact checking and rarely get the broad strokes of a story wrong. Plus, I have never read an article where the reporters opine about their subject, they just report the news, unlike the folks over at Fox.
Well, you missed the funniest part of his post. If all the networks other than fox are "liberal", than his claim that "Most people are tired of the liberal / Democrat cheerleader networks." is not true at all. By his own numbers lol. Enough, though. There is little point to entertaining such foolishness.
