In case you haven't noticed Kas13 seems to know what hes talking about when it comes to the Texans. He attends press conferences, and seems to have a bit more inside information than the rest of us. At least his posts have proven that so far. Fegwu, aren't you one of the VY crazies? ............. Figures.
No I am not - you must be confusing me for someone else. Even if KAS13 is Bob McNair it is still silly to use absolutes unless you are God. It is always wise to leave room for the unknown. Bob McNair, CC and Kubiak cannot even "guarantee" you who they will pick (Bush, Ferguson or Williams or whoever) but they can "propose" to choose anyone. The safe thing to do is always leave room for the unkown - it shows wisdom, prudence and humility. What is wrong with saying that "there is a 99% chance that the Texans will selected and keep Bush as their first pick"? Hopefully, I am reaching someone out there. cheers.
Someone please post the text of the Vince Young ad that Matress Mac put in the Chronicle....the letter from "Holly F"
Why am I not surprised about this? Mac knows he stands to make money, if we draft VY. Reggie Bush wouldn't be caught dead doing Gallery commercials.
You cannot [sic] be that dumb....or could it be that I missed the sarcasm? You have been here long enough so I will give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you probably forgot to insert a smiley. I hope you read my initial post on this subject. Cheers.
Just FYI, he just said on PTI that the Texans have not directly told him that he'd be their pick, but they have given him "indications".
Yes, I read the initial post, and yes, it was a joke. I am one of those on the board that likes to keep hope alive that the world hasn't gotten so touchy that you need to put smilies on every single joke you tell so that you don't get flamed for it. I don't know, maybe that makes me "dumb."
I'm just relaying the information I get to fellow Houston fans. I did the same with rookie workouts with the Rockets and so forth. You can choose to take the information of you can choose not to. That's completely up to you. Check my track record, the only thing I've been wrong about has been when I predicted USC to beat UT. I have never given incorrect information otherwise (unless it was an opinion). That being said, I'll agree with you somewhat. Nothing is guranteed I guess. The Texans are taking Bush unless something drastic happens (like the ridiculous rumour that the Jets were trading the first 4 rounds of their draft for the #1). For what it's worth, everyone I've talked to has said we're taking Reggie. We love Mario but we're taking Reggie. To be blatantly honest, we aren't even getting that many offers for the #1 pick (everyone is trying ot get NO's pick). Our asking price is extremely high and NO is much more willing to move. Even so, they are just as likely to grab Mario or Brick and not pull the trigger on a deal. Oakland is really the main team trying to move up right now. The Jets would like too but theyare slowly realizing that they are probably better served staying where they're at.
I don't have a lot of "insider" friends, but I do have friends who work in the media including the sports media. I asked a couple of them yesterday what they thought. One didn't know at all, but I kind of expected that response. The other said that unless something CRAZY happens before the draft - and given that the Texans are seriously asking for the moon for the #1 pick, that would seem unlikely - they are absolutely taking Reggie Bush. Several people who work for the Texans have said exactly what KAS13 said above, "We love Mario, but we are taking Reggie." One apparently said that they just could not pass him up because he grades higher anyone in the past several drafts according to scouts and personnel guys, many of whom aren't even working for the Texans.
That's exactly right. The Texans basically want 3 #1's for Bush or something to that effect. That type of deal just isn't on the table. The Jets aren't doing it, the 49ers (even with Bush next year) are going to be way to bad to risk giving up next year's number 1 (especially when they already love Vernon Davis) and there aren't any other logical teams for us to deal with. The Texans aren't willing to deal out of the "for sure" prospect range. There isn't a single person I've talked to who doesn't think Williams is going to be an impact defender and an unbelievable player. They just can't pass on Reggie for a variety of reasons. He's one of the highest graded prospects ever, they already have so many people who want them to take VY they don't want the PR nightmare, and while they think Williams is great picking him first wouldn't be getting the correct value out of this year's number 1 pick. It's just the way it is. Reggie's the guy unless some team makes us a really stupid offer (and so far it hasn't even been close). The "we're negotiating" with several teams is simply a ploy to try to generate more interest in the pick. NO is the team everyone wants to deal with because 3 teams in the top 10 really want a QB and Cutler's stock is beginning to drop as fast as it rose.
It's funny you say that because on of my friends told me a number of people in the organization really like Williams and think he would, in some ways, make more sense than paying a running back #1 pick money with another already in the fold getting paid, but that everyone is very concerned about the backlash not taking Bush would create if they already passed on VY. Apparently, McNair is chief among those concerned. Plus, as you said, when they had meetings, there was NO ONE that graded Bush as anything but the #1 talent in the draft, some by a fairly wide margin, and that he graded higher than anyone in recent memory. I guess they not only compare other picks in this draft, but they do sort of a mock draft history and compare picks to previous drafts as well.
The Texans know this is a business too. Passing on VY has already caused ads in the paper campaigning for him, radio and media backlash, ect..... The media has spent so much time convincing our fans Bush is the guy that if we didn't pick him the fans would go crazy. We would have to be a Playoff team to get the attendance a Bush or Young would generate. Your exactly right in what you said, a lot of people inside the organization believe Williams could have a huge impact on our team and is exactly what we need. They realize though that after having Bush and VY shoved down their throats for a year now that the casual fan won't be able to understand using the number 1 pick on a DE (even though that same fan will call in this year and complain if we aren't getting sacks). You're on point about the grading system. They said it's been a long time since any prospect was graded this highly and consensusly number 1 everywhere with two potential franchise QB's in the draft. They review everything when it comes to drafting this highly.
I know your track record and I consider you one of the insiders that we trust. I am even 90-95% sure that the Texans will draft Bush because that is who they want. It was just the your statement came accross to me - like experience has thought us, I try to always be deliberate when attempting to predict the future because we have all seen "sure things" change in the last minute. In this case if it changes, I hope it it Williams. Raven Lunatic, my utmost sincerely apologies. I obviously misunderstood you.
I understood where you were coming from. I know nothing is ever for sure but the Texans picking Bush is about as close as it gets (unless everyone in their organization is lying).
Kas I didn't realize you were an insider....what is your affiliation with the Texans? Do you work for them, media, or what?
Well, Bongo from the Texans Message Board reports that Bush is going to get 5 year, $24.6 mil - they still have to get incentive money and the voidable yrs done. They are going to add option clauses to extend the deal when they CBA allows it.
From HoustonTexans.com: Looks like we got a good deal with Bush. That's right at where Alex Smith signed for.
If this is credible info, then I'm stoked. Let's get this done and get on the same page again. Some parts of the last few months have been pretty cool....but it's time for peace, love and Bush.
