At 21 - terrible pick. he might make the pro-bowl as a special teamer but there is no way u can just guarantee he "will get his share of pro-bowls" or even mention the HOF. He hasnt had more than like 50-60 rushing yards so far in a game.
I was saying all along Bush was more Rocket Ismail than Marshall Faulk. I still think he will be a fine pro player--he is super fast, has good hands, and great moves, but pedigree of a RB worthy of the #1 overall pick, heck no. He never was a tackle breaker or run finisher in tight space, even in college. He lived off avoiding hits and accelerating in the open field, which he is superb at. The fact Pete Carroll got him a landslide Heisman over the most impressive college QB in recent memory on another undefeated team should further show folks the genious that he has in using players strengths and covering their weaknesses.
Whoa whoa whoa...I was being sarcastic, he may or may not be as big as a decoy as some think he is, but there is no way a decoy is worth $60M+ and the #1 pick. As for the 6-2 record, Brees was the biggest offseason aquisition in the NFL, period. I'm not ready to call Bush a bust because I don't think 8 games make a career. However...Bush is playing exactly how I thought he would in the NFL. The guy was one of the most spectacular college football players we've ever seen, however, I never thought his running style would translate well in the NFL.
Also, keep in mind on how GREAT the teams were that Marshall Faulk played on. He was pretty good in Indianapolis, but he went to a Rams team that was an offensive juggernaut (had 2 pro bowl WR's, a MVP calibur QB, a franchise LT and good offensive line overall, and an offensive "genius"/innovator in Martz). People tend to forget about all that other stuff when evaulating a player's greatness... Faulk comes nowhere close to being the MVP of the league if he plays for most any other team. Same goes for Kurt Warner. Reggie Bush not only has to adapt to the NFL game, but he must also posess the "good fortune" to be in a situation where he's a great fit, to have a chance at coming close to HOF type numbers.
Faulk was also a tireless worker, brilliant football player (according to his coaches), and tremendous between the tackles runner (shown before he went to the pros). All major unknowns for Bush, predraft and today. Just because Bush has speed to burn in a similar frame, can run in the open field, and catch a ball directed to him--does not make him Marshall Faulk. Faulk at Indy played on average to below average teams, they were 32-48. His rookie year he had 1200+ yards rushing, 500+ yards receiving and 12 TDs, Faulk averaged over 1000 yards rushing, 600 yards and 10TDs during a 5 year period on a fairly crappy Indy team. His numbers got even better on an excellent football team (Rams). Bush has miles to go to get in his league as a complete football player and workhorse tailback and is in a much better situation than Faulk was early in his career. But again Bush could still be an outstanding football player. He has some great natural gifts and is a great natural athlete. He just is a long way from being a great football player.
I was more of the opinion to draft VY than Bush, but agree he isn't the "star" ESPN and others thought he would be...
Wow guys, way to pile on someone who has been playing all year with an injured ankle. Lets wait until the guy is healthy before we judge him. Plus Deuce hasn't run the ball well either, the saints are a passing team, they don't run block well. You will all be eating crow, eventually. The season is only 1/2 way done and the guy has a bad ankle. How do you get that many carries and rush for negative yardage??? Like I said all along, the Saints put him in unfavorable rushing situations and with the bad ankle he can't get to the outside. In the pre-season game against tennessee, he burned those guys to the outside, that was before his ankle injury, hmmmm. All the guys piling on Reggie in this thread are VY/UT homers, I know your screennames. VY sure looked good yesterday. 3ints. That guy can't throw a football to save his life. Oh yeah I forgot, he's a leader. Abraham Lincoln was a leader, but that doesn't mean he should play quarterback. And he's healthy too, so no excuses there. LOL. Hypocrits.
so you're saying the true barometer here is the one decent preseason game he had against an awful team? gotcha. and i forgot that the learning curve for a quarterback and a running back are completely the same.
First of all, it's hypocrite. Secondly, if someone's argument is disingenuous, you can point that out without namecalling. For example, I'll point out that perhaps you (among others) have railed against any defense of VY and DC saying, "stop making excuses", and here for your boy Reggie you've offered quite a few excuses. But, I'm not going to call you a hypocrite over it--I won't even call you a "hypocrit" over it. BTW, I was for drafting Bush. I'm still thinking the Texans did well on draft day, and I'm more and more each week thinking that Bush sucks. Hard.
That was 1 freaking play in his career. His preseason numbers were just as unimpressive as his regular season numbers. And as far as being a UT/VY homer...Im the furthest from that. In fact, Im all about seeing VY fail, so all my UT friends would shut up.
I was all for Young... or Bush and felt really burned by the Williams pick but right about now its not looking so bad. I think in time they'll both VY and RB will be good players in the league but I had no idea how poor they RB would be playing. Talk about over hyped.
Im a UT fan and I would still DRAFT MARIO over VY for the Texans. And how do you run for -5 yards? By dancing around and not hitting the hole or even lack thereof supposedly. His running style is stupid for the NFL and you dont wanna admit it. To be fair to the ESPN guys....Ive heard a few of them say that NO TEAM is AFRAID of Bush's RUNNING ABILITY. Stop making excuses. Explain why he couldnt run the ball BEFORE the ankle sprain. Now you wanna bring up run blocking when Bush stunk it up in the same game, in which Duece had over a 100 yards. Please stop making excuses cuz you sound stupid.
Yep, it's the team's and coach's fault. Sure. If the team is so bad, then why does this Marques Colston fellow lead the league in touchdowns for a WR? And why does Drew Brees look like a Pro Bowler again? Typical for fans of a bad overrated player to blame the surroundings for their player's faults. I understand the need to defend your boy, but your excuses are pretty pathetic, and no, I'm not even a Texans, or a UT fan. I'm just entertained by your increasingly desperate whining and moaning as Bush proves himself to not be "the next Gayle Sayers".
Its funny how some of the same people saying Bush is terrible were pissed when the Texans drafted mario williams. Mario Williams has looked good over the past month but dont jump on his jock because he is the hottest rookie right now and Bush is in a major slump.
Have you noticed at all that you went praising the guy as the best prospect to blaming every single aspect except for Bush himself? Now its injuries, Sean Payton putting him in unfavorable situations, the Saints are no good at run blocking, blah blah blah. But wait...he had 1 good run during a preaseason vs. one of the worst teams in the leauge. Please serve the crow jgreen. Typical UT hater, you're more obsessed with trying to prove UT fans wrong than trying to prove yourself right. I also forgot that having to learn what every single person does for every play is easier than learning to run the ball between the tackles. You're losing all the credibility you had left jgreen and its absolutely hilarious.
