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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. CXbby

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    “Not getting past g league level defenders” happened twice against Nix, then he proceeded to go 9/12 the rest of the way blowing by Nix whenever he wanted.
     
  2. xtruroyaltyx

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    Yeah i dont recall any of his baskets being assisted this past game.
     
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  3. ApacheWarrior

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    Don't be a dingbat

    I'm the guy that noted Steph Curry stepping to his left is rar.more deadly. Don't let him step left along the 3-point line.

    I said Garret Mathews is the opposite. Don't let him step or curl right and shoot.

    I said CP3 goes left in pick and roll to abuse a big center.....but without a big center CP3 goes right predominantly.

    I said before the last play (here on Clitchfans)
    that Covington is good awful defending a ball handler on the perimeter. That last play Rockets vs Thunder, Covington needs to guard against CP3 going right because with no big out there....CP3 will fake left and go right. Which is exactly what CP3 did. Ended up the only play Covington did well guarding the perimeter in that game.


    But nevermind me.....I don't know anything.

    What have you guessed right?
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    I just want to add, Steph Curry, the dream outcome and a few years older averaged 17 PPG on 32% in SL.

    CP3 the other dream outcome and a basketball genius shot 37% with 12 PPG

    Summer league isn't really built for guys who need a team doing what it's supposed to for them to be at their best.
     
  5. CXbby

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    “Couldn’t generate separation”? All 5 of his thees were open, where he went 0/5. He went 9/12 on the rest of his shots where he “couldn’t generate separation”?

    Far and away the biggest takeaway right now should be how well Reed has generated shots outside of his bread and butter 3 pointers, which is the hallmark of a star once he proves he’s also a generational 3 point shooter.
     
  6. CXbby

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    I am one of Fred’s biggest fans. I said he would add +10 wins to this team when we signed him. That’s what gave me the confidence to put a ton of money on their win total over under, kick @YOLO off the board with our bet, and make @ApacheWarrior look like a fool. Reed is not going to replace Fred next year, and in fact I would support an extension for Fred where he can start alongside Reed for a couple of years and then transition to the bench later in his career.

    All that is to say, out of anyone here I am one who appreciates what Fred does the most. But to compare him with Reed as a prospect, it’s not close. The higher end outcomes for Reed, which are looking more and more likely, puts Fred to shame.
     
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  7. Nook

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    Fans are spoiled. They remember James Harden literally standing at the three point line and waiting for the defense to set - and then seeing Harden carve up the defense - or seeing Jalen Green blow by guys.

    Reed Sheppard can get around defenders, but he usually does it in the same way that guys like Nash or Price did it - through perpetual motion, using angles, coming off picks and screens and in transition. He usually isn't going to try and isolate and score.

    What makes Sheppard especially nasty is that while he isn't very tall or long, he is deceptively explosive - and even more so, needs the smallest of windows to get his shot off and score.... and he is efficient in the paint.

    Nuance is important. Someone like Westbrook can get by a perimeter defender, and can go over a defender - but he doesn't do well in tight spaces and he doesn't finish well.

    Reed is a really good mix with Udoka, because Udoka is primarily concerned with defense - everything starts and ends with defense for him - but Reed is an engine, and he can facilitate quick ball movement, quick passing, screens and efficiency - which should really help Jalen Green and Jabari Smith. Reed is also a very good shooter, so he can play off of Sengun as well - and Reed will move, which is something that Sengun needs when he is the ball handler and creator.
     
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  8. Bobbythegreat

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    He did get one good pass leading to an open 3, but he missed. That was the only decent attempt all game to pass to Sheppard for an assist that i remember.
     
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  9. Haymitch

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    Noted
     
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    They have been few and far between. The rest of the roster has been an absolute black hole.

    They get the ball in their hands and "it's my time to shine".
     
  11. Easy

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    Oh, but you didn't say you watched him shoot and concluded that he's not a good 3pt shooter. You used DATA, all 18 shots of them, to prove your point. I did not dispute your subjective observation. I dispute the evidence you presented.
     
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    Couldn't be. He can't get his shot up or get by defenders
     
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    Should have finished with 12 assists and 6 turnovers. Every turnover has a story, Brock.
    The tomfoolery by the rest of the guys in the SL roster was difficult to watch. The GARM pick up games felt like the Princeton offense in comparison.

    Practicing vs Amen and Eason is going to make him that much better with that work ethic he has.
     
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    He never shot volume from NBA range while running point. I think that works itself out has his body and fitness mature. Harden had/has the similar issues with poor shooting in the playoffs because the defensive effort required, both for and against, ramps up.
     
  16. ApacheWarrior

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    You can read my assessment of him pre and post draft a-hole.

    The things Reed is struggling with are what I predicted.

    My words said say all I need to say.

    You are associating words to me that I never
    said. I never said he would be a bad shooter.
    F"**king liar.

    I said he wasn't going to shoot no 54% as he did as a backup in college.

    I put the numbers already.
    College backup 54% from 3
    College starter 42% from 3 ( 1 win 4 loses)
    Now in the NBA it will be different.

    *Further distance
    *better defenders (people here noted me saying accountants and pizza delivery drivers)
    *Grueling Schedule
    Teams forcing switches on him and having a bigger body leaning on him to affect his shot.
     
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    I just don't think you can start two guards that short in the NBA these days. Yes they could have some run together in the line up for spurts when the other team has some of their starters out. But you're just giving up way too much height if both FVV and Reed are starting at any point no matter the other 3 guys.
     
  18. Corrosion

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    That guy's worth a laugh every once in a while, other than that he belongs on ignore .... most conversations are like talking to a teenager who knows everything.
     
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    Reed was the perfect player to add to an already stacked team.
     
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  20. ApacheWarrior

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    That's the mistake many make here.....making or seeing Reed Sheppard as a true point guard.

    Same dummies that saw TyTy and Nix as pure PGs.

    Harden was a 6'4" bull that can wreck havoc in a China Shop. Absorb contact and get a shot off.

    Please don't mistake Sheppard for Harden.

    Stick with VanVleet who had Lowry hold his hand for
    3 years. Since then VanVleet as the main ball handler
    has trouble getting his team past .500
     

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