I watched both games and it’s 80 minutes I’ll never get back. One things for sure other than Reed the Rockets are severely lacking in prospects at the end of their bench. Next summer my hope is that we can acquire several picks to bring in more talent where right now we have roster spots for garbage players like Jeenathan and Jaysean. For Reed yeah he hasn’t necessarily looked bad as much as he’s looked like everything negative everyone projected onto their analysis of Cam Whitmore. He’s just kind of looked like a streak shooter who in the NBA comes off the bench to see if he’s hot. He’s had a few plays here and there where he does a good job of setting guys up with a good pass but the PG position just still doesnt look like something that can come naturally to him anytime soon. Defense too has been pretty tough to watch at times. Based on what I’ve seen it doesn’t look like he’s transformed himself yet but Reed as he is now as a prospect could certainly provide some shooting off the bench and looks like when he goes off it could be a difference maker for the team, but based on what I’ve seen in the first two game I don’t see him successful yet and being able to expand his game into being able to play the PG/lead guard position anytime soon. We need a big development year from Amen more than anything because I do not want a team built around needing to rely on FVV and 38 year KD to create all of our offense from the perimeter. Amen and Reed’s development cannot be understated so yeah so far this summer league I’m disappointed in what I’ve seen.
The Rockets are cursed in terms of finding a PG since Stone brought in KPJ.....but are well blessed in other areas such as at Forward and Center.
Reed cannot create his own shot and so far is not great at creating for others. People keep saying it is because of the terrible team they put around him, but the other teams are playing scrubs as well. If he can’t get around SL guards, what is he going to do against the Carusos of the world or virtually any decent guard in the league? He is not ready to be our primary guard off the bench. We can’t make a meaningful move until 37 games into the season unless Reed or Tari is part of the deal. FVV and Amen are going to be playing 35-40 mins a game to start the season and Holiday is going to eat into Reed’s minutes sooner rather than later. He has quick hands and will get steals, but his team defense has been bad. Ime is an ISO coach and Reed is not an ISO player. He may evolve into a decent backup guard or hot hand off the bench in a year or two. I guess he and Capella might have a decent pnr game, but how often will they play together and how often would Ime call their number? Rockets should have used the limited funds they spent on Capella for a guard. I usually don’t really care about summer league results, but the last 2 games have solidified my opinion that Reed’s lack of athleticism is a fatal flaw that will keep him from a starting role and, at least for this year, a meaningful role off the bench.
Yeah we are stacked at the 3/4 spots for sure. But our ability to create offense from the perimeter certainly looks far too reliant on Fred and KD who I would expect will sit 30 to 40% of the season. This is a big season for Amen who really needs to take that next step in his offensive abilities. I love Reed but based on what I’ve seen so far I don’t see it as just having that natural ability to truly be a point guard. Hope I’m wrong but I suspect we’ll be hearing early on about how the Rockets are aggressive in their pursuit of back court help.
It was a given that we need another guard to help out this year. That said....Seeing all these remarks about Reed's game is ridiculous. This kid is gonna be a stud out top with the ball in his hands. And, can certainly bust it. Yes, he might be a defensive liability at times. But, It's obvious that he's got an injury from the previous game...along with no structure in SL with 0 talent around him. Use all the data at your disposal...not just this game.
My vision for Reed would be for him to play off the ball more often than not, with Amen getting the majority of the lead guard touches. If Reed's going to make in the NBA it will be because he becomes the elite 3P shooter we envisioned when we drafted him. Needs to be running around a lot without the ball, getting off-ball screens, occasionally he gets to be the ballhandler when there's a mismatch and we can get him really open on the PnR. So basically on offense we're talking about an Amen point guard / Reed shooting guard kind of set up, then on defense Amen takes the toughest guard/wing assignment, whatever position that may be, and Reed guards some 3nD guy. I think we've kind of gotten ourselves into a situation where we're stuck with Reed as the first guard off the bench. That was somewhat intentional, they're giving him his shot as the #3 pick. We're just going to have to hope he can at least provide some solid floor spacing and connective passing and not be a net-negative out there.
I said it last year and since the playoffs - Rockets needed a vet PG to help teach Reed and Amen to work with Cassell, or CP3 this summer - FVV is too busy boxing with Ime Amen is working with theguardwhisper who works with SGA (Tari is there also) But Ime true issue is when he panics he goes all defense - so be prepared for long scoring droughts with all forwards on the court and maybe Adams or Capela he did it in playoffs and the 4 games we lost the Warriors doubled up on us in 3pt shots and we barely lost those games
Yeah right now if I was Reed's mentor I would be telling him to go watch film of guys like JJ Reddick, Ray Allen, and Jeff Hornacek. Those guys didn't necessarily have a system built around them, but love or hate them, they were maybe some of the hardest working and guys in terms of their stamina on offense to constantly be moving, coming off picks, and just flat out hustling to get shots. This whole idea that because we added KD, everyone else will just be wide open is a severe lack of understanding of how good modern NBA defenses are. It doesn't necessarily mean that Reed is going to be bad, but I just don't see Steve Nash, or CP3 guys... sorry. He's more JJ Reddick, but in order to be even JJ Reddick he better realize that JJ didn't get shots just because he played with CP3, and Lebron. He got shots because he was essentially an endurance athlete who worked his a$$ off to get open on every possession, and didn't just settle for step back flashy Steph Curry like 3's like I see Reed trying for in Summer League. But I am concerned that Stone and co. seriously are putting way too much emphasis on this notion that he is the next Steve Nash. I understand we are hard capped, but still... you can't tell me there was no way in the past 24 months to find a couple other prospects to fill out the end of the bench that also had the ability to be perimeter playmaker.
My expectation, and what the Rockets actually need, is for Reed to become the next Payton Pritchard. And that's certainly still on the table. Anything more than that will be gravy. If Reed becomes the next Steve Kerr, no one will care whether he could dominate summer league or not.
Every excuse in this thread as to why Reed can’t shine as a 2nd year player playing in the Summer League except the most obvious… He was not top-3 pick material.
Lol you're attempting to troll the board over one Summer League game where a player you want to fail had a low efficiency game similar to the typical game of the scrub you constantly sucked off for 4 years... Me laughing at you is not a "crash out". It's just more evidence that you're just a fundamentally unserious person for even trying this over a single Summer League game.
Everybody in this thread: "Man reed sucks, not an NBA player" but all the NBA podcaster types i've heard in the last few days are like "wow did you see Reed Sheppard? He was absolutely dominant on Friday, he doesn't belong here anymore, too good for LVSL"
Exactly! Thank you!! Rockets really screwed that pick up severely. This is what happens when you let the league draft a player for you.
I don't think Reed is going to make it. The Rockets need to make a big push for CP3 if it's not too late. Go ahead a cut ties with Sheppard.
please go look at Alex Sarrs summer league stats and bub carington. Topic and holland have looked good and meh themselves none of them are dominating. here’s Reeds combined stat line for two games: 23.0 PTS, 6.0 REB, 2.5 AST, 4.0 STL, 1.5 BLK, 30.5 MIN .356 FG% (16-45), .368 3P% for reference here is castles ROY statline: 14.7 PTS, 3.7 REB, 4.1 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, 26.7 MIN .428 FG%, .285 3P%
I really didnt like how Reed played yesterday and how he handled himself on the court. But lets not get too down on him after summer league games. Our team sucks and the opposing defense has made him the focal poinit and guarded him tough full court. Yeah, that could also happen in the NBA but usually there will be way bigger threats on the court than Reed and he will be either camping out in a corner or hopefully running through off the ball screens to get an open shot. He won't be a shot creator, he will mostly be bringing the ball up and handing it off to a guy like Durant or Sengun. He needs to hit his shots and prove, that he can stand his own on defense and not just put up good stats because of gambling. If he can do that, I am fine with having him off the bench for 15 minutes a night.
