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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. illwil29

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    What we really need to do is get rid of the veterans that were intended to be 3rd stringers. Aaron Holiday and Je'sean Tate. Just those 2 moves may have given Reed and Cam some playing time this past season. What game was that, where Tate lost a defensive assignment and put up a weak as contest 3ft from the shooter? I forgot was it Sacramento or Golden State?
     
  2. Shroopy2

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    With talk about 'failing" to develop Reed & Cam playing big minutes, though the Rockets was a #2 West seed, keep in mind Rockets only finished 4 games past the play-in.

    Even in the past 8 seeds playoff format, Rockets would only be 4-5 games from missing the playoffs entirely. Thats very little room for development comfort.

    In the East, #2 Celtics & #3 Knicks were 20 and 10 games far past the play-in threat. They could have rested/"load managed" their starters final 15-25 games, and probably still make the playoffs.

    If its saying 2025 record doesnt really matter and play Reed & Cam for the "long haul" future seasons, thats one thing. If this season's record matters, then its just as plausible that 25 mpg of Reed & Cam could have cost Rockets the playoffs.
     
  3. jnuge90

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    I think we underestimate Brooks’ toughness and what kind of confidence that provides for the young guys. Sure he may not be as talented, but good teams need guys who don’t wither when the Draymonds & Jimmys of the league start “bullying” in the playoffs.
     
  4. roslolian

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    So if he had picture perfect mechanics from the start why was his shot broken from the start of the season to when he got to the GLeague? You are the one who doesn't know what you are talking about if he had perfect mechanics all the way from college and never changed anything why was his shot horrible to start the season till he went to the GLeague? That's like 70% of a year shooting 20s percentage from 3?

    Even now his shooting average is still below league average. So someone who has had perfect shooting mechanics all the way from college couldn't even shoot league average? What do you think is supposed to happen if you have picture perfect shooting mechanics? Is the shot supposed to go in or is the shot supposed to go out?
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    It's incredibly unlikely that would have happened because when given proper minutes Reed and Cam outplayed the old guys they prioritized and even the starters quite often.

    Also, playing Reed more would have lowered FVV's minutes likely leading to him not getting injured and missing so many games.... potentially leading to more wins than they ended up with.

    On top of that, there would be more options in the playoffs when the starters **** the bed.


    Also, given that they sacrificed the future of the team just to get embarrassed by a 7 seed and wash out in the first round, it's hard to claim it was worth it.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    I know you don't know basketball at all, but he didn't change his shot at all from the start of the season to the end.

    There are other factors that can cause a player to miss shots.... which of course you don't know because you are the most casual of casuals.

    Seriously kid, it's just embarrassing that you keep doubling down on stupid like this.
     
  7. illwil29

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    Just don't understand in a series where we are struggling for offense, these guys don't get a shot. Especially Reed! Reed had 20 points against a Clippers team that had everything to play for. Oh I forgot Jeff Green as well. I cut for Jeff Green. I thought he was big part of Denvers championship.
     
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  8. roslolian

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    Nah clearly you are the one doubling down on stupid. Literally no argument other than "you causal, you dumb. I'm right cuz I said so. You don't know I'm right? There are reasons but you don't know cuz you casual you dumb".

    Look up ad hominem dude. Maybe grow up a little you are already an old ass man still incapable of making coherent arguments.
     
  9. Hemingway

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    He did wither that’s one of the problems with Dillon. He also is a sh*t ball handler, rebounder, passer. He is basically a good spot up shooter and a good/not great defender. Injury free Tari is the better option, but there are tons of better options on the market, but not necessarily for his price tag.
     
  10. roslolian

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    You are right. Dillon is a really good 3nD at a great price. But that's just his on court impact, you are forgetting he is one of the culture and vibe setters for the team. When the team is getting bullied or intimidated he is someone the team knows they can rely on. When the defense gets sloppy, he is one of the guys getting on everyone to lock the F in.

    Of coure you don't pay a guy sorely for his intangibles, but those intangibles in addition to being a good 3nD is the reason why Brooks is invaluable.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    The issue here is that you don't know the absolute basics. You don't know what good shooting mechanics look like, you can't comprehend that players can miss shots for non-mechanical reasons.

    Your inadequacy does not end at basketball either, you also apparently don't understand what ad hominem means in the context of the logical fallacy. Just because I point out that you are too stupid to talk basketball does not inherently mean that it is an example of the fallacy. My argument is not based on you being completely ignorant when it comes to basketball....my argument is that he has had literally perfect shooting mechanics since college...the reason he started off on a cold shooting streak has nothing to do with mechanical issues....they were mental.

    He was adjusting to a MUCH higher level of play where he's defended by considerably more athletic and fast defenders than he's ever faced before. On top of that, he was getting jerked in and out of the lineup on a whim...which only makes those issues worse. When he got to RGV, he started out his first game shooting poorly....but he didn't get benched, the coaches there encouraged him to keep shooting and he put up 49 and ever since that moment he's hit over 40% of his 3's. He just needed a bit of time to adjust to the league and RGV coaches to undo the damage to his confidence that Ime did with his incompetent mishandling to start the season.

    As to the ad hominem allegations, the fact that you are a complete moron that knows nothing about basketball at all is a side issue, it's not the basis of my argument, thus it's not an example of an ad hominem fallacy. Your hot take that Reed Sheppard had bad shooting mechanics wasn't wrong becuase you are a complete moron....it's wrong because it's factually untrue....you said it because you are a complete moron.

    Genuine question, is there ANYTHING you are even halfway competent at? I have always believed that everyone has at least one thing they aren't completely pathetic at, but you are actively challenging that belief.
     
  12. astrosrule

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    If only reed had the awesome shooting mechanics and ability of castle, we would really have something.
     
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    LOL, now that's funny. Seriously though, Stephon Castle needs to send Ime a thank you card for sabotaging Reed Sheppard so that Castle could get the ROY....likely the only award he wins in his career. He was complete dogshit, but it helped the Spurs tank, so they kept playing him and volume was all it took to get the nod this year because the only quality player in the draft class was kept off the court.
     
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    He played his roll well, 2nd pick is great for them. Even without reed there were a ton of guys more deserving than castle.
     
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    Any chance he plays in SL? Would love to see him get some burn. Maybe gets confidence. Maybe gets ideas for what to work on for the rest of the offseason.
     
  16. Hemingway

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    He is valuable, not invaluable, but I’m not wanting to trade him just to get rid of him. If he is a part of a package for a vet or for a really good Frp then I would trade him. Unfortunately, Amen will still be playing forward since Ime is so stubborn about FVV, so Dillon needs to go to the bench. Jabari needs to start.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Agreed,Dylan Harper is pretty much exactly what they need if he can work on that 3 pointer and get it to something approaching respectability.

    Honestly their guard situation is pretty tragic right now.

    Devin Vassell is the only guard they have that can shoot under 40 and while I know some like De'Aaron Fox...I'm just not high on PG's that can't shoot. Outside of those 2 it's trash.

    If I was them, I'd pick Harper and then try to move Fox for anything of value, perhaps as an expiring contract if no one else wants him.
     
  18. roslolian

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    valuable and invaluable mean the same thing lol
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Dear lord you are ****ing dumb.

    Invaluable means valuable beyond estimation....essentially priceless.

    Valuable simply means that a thing has desirable characteristics or qualities.

    Again, I ask, is there ANYTHING you actually know or are good at? Anything at all?
     
  20. Hank McDowell

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    Ouch! Got damn...

    Fan on fan violence. Maybe tap the brakes guys.
     
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