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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    I mean, if you believe the universal "tired legs" theory, then if you expend energy past a certain point your shooting declines. So I think that applies to defense or in reverse as well - if your offense requires a ton of running, you probably will have a little less energy on defense.

    So for example if you're on a team that needs to be #1 defense and #1 rebounding to get into the playoffs, chances are you're either playing a bigger rotation or you have less energy on offense. In theory that's partially because they have more tired legs.

    I don't think it's a strong correlation, but I'm sure there's some kind of effect. I believe MDA lost 2 titles (Phoenix and Houston) just because he didn't understand this idea - his teams who would barely practice and then play crazy minutes would mysteriously loose their shooting touch the longer the series gets. I think exhausting your players is a failed strategy in the NBA, hardly any HC/GM believes in it anymore.
     
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  2. coachbadlee

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    Oh my. Y'all are so lucky! Finally, after years of trying, I had you haters on here set up perfectly! Then Devin Carter gets injured!! Oooooo, how so very lucky you all are!!
     
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    What is weird is that he seemed so comfortable and a force multiplier at the Summer League. I get that isn't the NBA level of talent, speed or scheme, but many of those guys were 2nd year players.

    It's as if he has regressed just from then.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    Give it time.

     
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  6. roslolian

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    He got cooked tonight by everybody he tried to guard so he def hurt us tonight.

    There was that stat that said he had the best defense among rookies though so I'll check again next game if that is legit or not.
     
  7. TheJet

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    QUOTE="roslolian, post: 15492762, member: 34579"]He clearly wasnt that good just got lucky early then stopped shooting to maintain his percentage. If that 50% was legit he'd have more than 12 ppg.

    He already flopped in March Madness that shows you he cant get his shot off cleanly if guarded even at the college level


    You've posted some asinine stuff before but this one takes the cake. And the first sentence is a total fabrication. I took a chance that you'd be able to have a serious discussion but you've proven it to be a waste of time. I have no idea how you call yourself a Rockets fan.

    Edit: I ignored this poster for obvious reasons so I fake quoted the original post.
     
  8. PatBev

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    We want Cam
     
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  9. hlmbasketball

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    After what you saw last night and so far this season, you still think Jalen is a 3rd option?

    I watched the Post-game show last night and I agree with Calvin Murphy, Jalen needs to start off each game being aggressive and the only way that's going to happen, is if Amen is the PG. I've been saying this since his play in March, that he needs more opportunities. Amen moves the ball better.

    I think FVV is slowing Jalens game down, it would be the same as if Harden was here. They like to play through the center. PNR. If you notice when FVV is playing, less players are in double figures. Mainly, it's him, Sengun, Jalen and Brooks....less ball movement. Last night there were six players in double figures.

    Sure there were more turnovers but that can be cleared up over time with a backcourt of Amen and Jalen.
     
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  10. hlmbasketball

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    Everything I said about this kid before the draft is EXACTLY what we are seeing now; inability to get his on shot, too small, wildly inconsistent and gets isolated on defense.

    MY PROBLEM IS, WHY DIDN'T THE ROCKET'S FO SEE THIS?

    I'm just a fan but looking at his highlights, box scores and games all of this was evident. I'm still holding out hope but I think its obvious he needs to be in the G-League and Holiday or Cam needs to be getting those mins
     
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  11. vince

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    I would be ecstatic if Jalen Green makes the turn into all-star relevance. He doesn’t even need to be an all-star but being in the conversation as an all-star snub is high praise too.

    I’m still hopeful Green Becomes everything and more we hoped when the Rockets drafted him.

    I’ve noted that last year Green took it upon himself to improve his defense, and though not a great individual defender, he is far from the joke on defense he was his first 2 years. Playing defense is exhausting, and I think that is to blame for his decreased shooting percentage.

    This year with extra conditioning, his defense has in my opinion gotten even better. His shooting is still subpar. But as of recently, Green is taking it upon himself to drive the ball into the basket for layups, dunks, or to simply collapse the defense for a pass outside. His finishing has been off, but at least he isn’t shying away from contact as he’s done for most of his career.

    I fully expect his shot to improve as his conditioning and strength fill out his NBA body. He’s no longer the string bean weakling he was when he got drafted.

    But what I appreciate most about Jalen is that according to Clutch and others, he works very hard at practice. He puts in effort and wants to get better.
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    That is only showing players that can only play one type of basketball....

    Great players can adjust to more types and half court as well.

    McGrady instantly adjusted from not really having a good Center to playing with Yao. Within 1 season.

     
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  13. hlmbasketball

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    McGrady had been in the league 6 -7 yrs before playing with Yao.

    I would compare Jalen and Sengun more to Shaq and Kobe in the beginning....NOT AS PLAYERS but more as learning to play with one another. It took them 3yrs before they started winning big. And they had far better coaching and roster from the jump.
     
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  14. meh

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    Because even the same players don't have the same coordination and mindset on defense in the summer league the way they do in an actual NBA game. Why do you think Jabari was posting people up and making turnaround Js in the summer league and he barely does any of that in the NBA?

    As a lot of people have said, summer league is really good for figuring out people who CAN'T play in the NBA more than it can figure out who can. Sheppard passing the summer league test just meant his talent makes him playable on the NBA level. And he probably will be a long time NBA player. The question more is whether he's more of a role player in a similar vein as Pat Beverley (but with better shooting/worse defense), or if he can more of a force on offense, reaching some level of his pre-draft ceiling comp of Mark Price or White Curry.
     
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  15. Risingred

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    I have no concerns about Reed, and he's going to be fine. Yes, he's hurting the team at this time, and needs to get stronger. That being said, Reed is extremely coachable like Jabari; he does whatever the coach tells him to, runs the right play, most importantly, he has a high basketball IQ, and his shooting mechanics are beautiful. These type of players may struggle early in their careers but they will find their places in the NBA eventually. Like Jabari quietly gets his 3P% up to 35 percent this year. You don't want players having shaky handles and shooting forms because those bad habits will be hard to correct during the fierce NBA schedule.
     
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  16. coachbadlee

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    His post was not about Jalen. It was about Reed.

    My bad.(edit)
     
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    Alpi's offensive stats from last year to this year lol.
     
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  18. bluffkin

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    Why is stone always missing on his top 3 picks
     
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  19. vince

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    He referenced, that I said that as of right now, the best that Jalen Green can hope for is being a 3rd option. Folks get emotional when it’s brought up Green may not amount to our projected superstar expectations; even I get sad when I ponder that.

    My previous post tied into Reed later, but it was a separate point - in that Reed becoming a major contributor seems bleak. Heck, even before he laid one foot in the NBA, Reed was fighting hefty odds of succeeding; it was a particularly weak draft, and the odds for a top 10 pick becoming even a core rotation player in even a strong draft is 40% to 50%.
     
  20. coachbadlee

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    Yeah, i was looking at the wrong post. My fault.
     
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