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Recommendation - Best game console

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Chamillionaire, Sep 9, 2010.

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What do you recommend?

  1. PS3

    96 vote(s)
    60.8%
  2. XBOX360

    53 vote(s)
    33.5%
  3. Wii

    5 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. PSP

    1 vote(s)
    0.6%
  5. Nintendo DS

    3 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. dback816

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    It really depends on what games you'd want to play.

    If you enjoy true variety, get a PS3. If you just like playing the usual suspects: NBA Live, Madden, Modern Warfare, etc, then get the system that your friends have.

    But if you got a family then maybe you should consider getting a Wii. Move and Kinect both look awful.
     
  2. Chamillionaire

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    sounds like if you`re a serious gamer, XBOX360 is the way to go.

    if you`re not so serious, the PS3 sounds more practical.
     
  3. RC Cola

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    This hasn't really been 100% accurate...until maybe lately. Lots of Japanese games on the 360, even exclusives. Starting to turn back to the PS3 since the 360 is dead in Japan though. Though given the output of most Japanese developers, I don't know if this is really a plus.

    And FPS are plentiful on each. Maybe even more on PS3 since Sony seemed to make it a priority with their 1st party studios.

    I think as mentioned many times before, both systems have very similar libraries. 3rd parties pretty much put their games out on both (very few exclusives there). So the only difference is in 1st party studios.


    Pretty much. Like I said, only differences are with 1st party games. MS has some big ones (Halo, Gears, Fable, etc.). Sony doesn't quite have any as big (except maybe Gran Turismo), though they have a ton of studios, which results in a lot more exclusives for the PS3. Whether those exclusives matter to you is another story.

    Pretty similar. Multiplatform games generally run about the same on both. Some might run better on one system, while others might perform better on the other. Getting to the point where these differences are pretty minor.

    Overall graphics, PS3 is better (IMO), but I think that might have to do with the studios that develop for PS3. Sony has some of the most talented developers working for them, so they end up getting some great results with the PS3. Some impressive stuff by 360 exclusives too, but just not quite as good (or as many games with graphics that good). But again, this is just with exclusives.


    I don't know how you got this idea. A lot of the PS3's best games are not M-Rated. Uncharted (T), Ratchet and Clank (E10+), LittleBigPlanet (E), Valkyria Chronicles (T), Infamous (T), and MLB The Show (E). And those are just the games I own (and excluding PSN games). Lots of other games which are more for families and kids. I think some of Sony's European studios seem to specialize in this (Buzz, Eyepet, Singstar, etc.). And with Move, they're pushing this even further...for better or for worse.

    This is one of Sony's strengths actually, and part of the philosophy behind their development studios I'm guessing. They pretty much make great games for every major genre and age rating.

    *Cue "PS3 does everything" promo*

    If a lot of Wii owners did this, then I guess it is no surprise why publishers seem to avoid putting games (or great games) on the Wii. Good job.

    I already responded to this in the other thread, but they have more online gamers* because they have more gamers. Kind of goes hand in hand. Given the choice, probably wouldn't have more. PC gamers definitely didn't go for the XBL service (even after they got rid of the $50 subscription).

    *Technically, there are far more PSN accounts than XBL accounts, though as I said in the other thread, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more active accounts on XBL...especially for certain games.


    You were pissed, yet you seemed pretty excited for the game in this thread:
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=176138

    Agreed. 360 might be better (though I prefer the PS3's controller...except for FPS, but I prefer M&KB for that anyway), but don't think the PS3 controller is that bad. Pretty sure people claimed it was easily the best controller out there for while in previous generations. Granted, the competition's controllers were pretty horrible I suppose.

    Of course, Sony actually tried to redesign the controller, but people were pissed with that idea, whining about how the controller was perfect and didn't need to change. So they scrapped that. Maybe some of these opinions should have been stated back then, and then the PS3 controller might have had a different design.

    All of this is probably moot since you can buy PS3 controllers with the 360's design, and probably vice versa. Relatively cheap too I think.


    I was under this impression too when I read that article, but I think I read somewhere at NeoGAF that Sony charges for patches too (same price as MS I think?). Don't even think they give a free one. Kind of sucks for developers.

    Though given how open PSN is, I think they might let developers use their own patching mechanism if they wish. So Valve can use Steamworks to update their games and not have to deal with Sony.

    Wish we found out more about this stuff. It usually takes an angry developer trying to get leverage for us to learn how this stuff works (and how much MS/Sony/etc. screw developers/gamers). Game journalists have better things to talk about I guess.


    Agreed. I don't know how I'd rank it and the 360's UI (don't have enough experience with it), but the XMB is pretty easy to use. Not hard at all to navigate. And it is used in a lot of Sony products, so even if it wasn't user friendly, anyone that has owned a Sony product is probably familiar with it already.

    Now the PSN Store was horrible for a while. Given that rhino17 only had his PS3 on for 20 minutes in the last 3 years, maybe he was thinking about that. But it (and other UI elements) have been drastically improved over time.


    Agreed. Although Kevin Butler is slowly persuading me that Move isn't so bad.

    (I actually might not mind Move so much, especially with some games, but price is pretty ridiculous...as with pretty much all this motion controller tech).


    I wouldn't agree with that, unless you redefine "serious gamer." I'm pretty sure I fit most descriptions for a "serious gamer," yet I'd easily pick PS3 over 360. Can't really go wrong with either (plenty of great games on each), but PS3's lineup suits my gaming preferences much better. More diverse lineup, more games that focus on story (and single player in general), more "game as art" games (i.e., Team Ico games ;)), etc.

    I'd probably say something more like this:

    If you play mostly multiplatform games, sports games (except baseball), and shooters, then probably go with the 360. Especially if you are really into competitive online play, and don't mind paying $60 a year (or eventually more knowing MS ;)).

    Otherwise, probably go PS3. Better games in other genres, and probably better suited if you're more of a casual online gamer.

    Though as it has been said before, can't really go wrong with either IMO.



    Wii actually isn't too bad, even for more "hardcore" non-family oriented games. Not as strong as the other systems, but some good stuff. In your case though, probably not applicable.


    PSP and DS got some great stuff, although you have to enjoy handheld gaming. I ignored it for a while because I just couldn't get into them, but I recently started playing more PSP games. Some good stuff. I've been meaning to play some DS games too, but I may just hold out for the 3DS...assuming I haven't given up handheld games for a 2nd time by then.
     
  4. Someguy1229

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    It is easily the 360, no contest.
     
  5. Rox_Mayhem

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    I got both ps3 and 360. I prefer ps3 cuz ; free to get online, blu-ray ,less hackers, and I hate the Microsoft points experience .
     
  6. Coach AI

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    I have all 3. My suggestion:

    1) If you are looking for a system more geared toward family, or parties/groups of friends over, and everyone is just looking for party games, Wii is the correct choice. Or if you want to play the updated Nintendo titles (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.). Wii is more a 'secondary system', to go along with one of the others.

    But there's a lot of shovelware crap on the system, so beware. However, the good games that are there are high quality.

    2) If you are looking to play more online games, and know people/have friends who are already playing on XBOX Live, or want to try it's exclusives (Halo, Gears of War, Fable, etc.) obviously the 360 will be a bigger draw. Live has a very active userbase and lots of options to the service. 360 also tends to get more extras for it's multiplatform games, usually in the form of extra content that you won't get on PS3 or will get much later. The big negative is you have to pay for it, obviously, and if there isn't anything in particular to draw you to the service you have free options in the PS3.

    I also consider Live Arcade to be a the best download service out there. Wii has tons of 'classic' stuff in it's download service so it's got the advantage there, but for sheer variety in gameplay Live often offers more options, and many times exclusives or timed exclusives for these games.

    3)If you are new to the online console scene and don't have people you already know on Live, the PS3's free service would be a more attractive option. PS3 also has built up a good library of exclusives as well (Uncharted, God of War, Killzone, etc.) and it is, of course a great media machine. It's also still one of the best Blu Ray players out there I believe, so that's an added bonus if you want to get into HD movies.

    It also has it's own online service/store with PSN, so you've got options there with movies and games as well.


    Also, I don't agree with this 'more variety' line and I wouldn't buy into it. The two systems are much more alike at this point than anything. RPGs, Western and Japanese games, shooters, platformers; all the different types are well represented on both systems. Throw in the Live Arcade and PSN Store and the idea that one library has more variety is false.

    If anything, it's a matter of exclusives. If there's one game you want to play more than any other, that should really play a bigger role in your choice.
     
  7. RC Cola

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    I agree with most of you post (including pretty much everything relevant to the OP's question), but I don't really agree with this. Some types aren't even well represented on either console, let alone both (e.g., Heavy Rain is probably the only notable "adventure" game on both consoles IMO).

    But, as an example, let's check out 360/PS3 platformers (one of the types you mentioned). PS3 already has LittleBigPlanet, R&C: Tools of Destruction, and R&C: A Crack in Time. You can soon add the Sly Collection (or exclude it if you'd like as a PS2 rehash), a new LBP, a new R&C, and that Heroes on the Move game (not too excited about this one but whatever). All exclusive and decent platformers for the most part (well, maybe not HotM).

    360 has Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts...and then Kung-Fu Panda (also on PS3)? Can't really think of any notable platformers for the near future, especially by MS. Maybe something for Kinect, though not even sure about that. Just going by numbers and ignoring quality, that's a pretty large difference IMO. And in a relatively major genre. Not talking niche strategy RPGs or anything. BTW, I just used Gamerankings to filter and list games for each platform by genre in case anyone is curious. Hard to tell what the genre is for some games, so I just used their system for defining them.

    Now that's not to say this is the case for everything. It is the other way around for some types. But I think in general, the PS3's lineup has a bit more variety. Wouldn't say it is huge difference per say. Definitely not like PS2 vs Xbox or anything like that. As mentioned, their libraries are pretty similar, maybe especially so in the "popular" genres. But where they differ is where you'll see some of the variety start to creep in.

    I don't even think it should be unexpected. Sony puts out 1.5-2 times the games that MS does, so these will eventually began stacking up somehow. Don't generally see 10 FPS games being published by Sony (that would be a good way to kill sales), so not a surprise that Sony ends up trying to put out some games in some of these other genres. FYI, I just looked at Wikipedia for these numbers (just look at games by Sony/MS or something). List actually seemed a bit inaccurate (think a couple of games were missing), but don't think it affects my overall point (i.e., Sony puts out more games than MS).

    *Cue another 3 pages of debate about semantics regarding "variety". Sorry guys.*
     
  8. LonghornFan

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    Exactly my look on it. I had an Xbox, rarely played the live thing as I just like to play a game by myself to pass the time. I bought a PS3 today after work and I CANNOT WAIT for Grand Turismo in November. It was my favorite game ever on PS2.
     
  9. RKREBORN

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    PS3 by far.
     
  10. Chamillionaire

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    have you heard anything about the PS4?
     
  11. Drexlerfan22

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    I just recently bought a PSP, simply because it had some exclusives I really wanted to play (Valkyria 2, Lunar Remake, the upcoming Tactics Ogre remake, Crush, Crisis Core)... but I still probably wouldn't have bought it if it didn't have the ability to plug in to a TV so you can play it on the big screen. And the fact that the DS can't do that is why I'll probably never buy one.

    To me it's just another console, and the ability to take it on the go is just a rarely-utilized bonus.
     
  12. RC Cola

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    Yes. They call it PlayStation Move.

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    Sort of joking, but that probably isn't far from the truth. MS and Sony are probably banking on Kinect and Move quite a bit, and if they're successful, they'll be able to stretch out the console generation a bit more. If not, then maybe they'll advance their plans a bit.

    There have been a few things here are there about PS4, but nothing really substantial. Still way too early to worry about it.



    Yeah, that was actually a big selling point for me too (or...um...reselling point?). Though I actually haven't used it as much. Partly because I've played a few games that have a lot of 2d artwork (e.g., Class of Heroes), and they look pretty ugly on the big screen. Still, great addition to the PSP.

    I don't think I'd mind too much with missing that feature on the DS, but having it would help.
     
  13. MiracleShot

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    PS3.
    Free online gaming, 1080p blu ray. I know some above me have suggested wii, but PS3 is coming out with PlayStation Move. Plus more variety of games not just a bunch of party games like Wii.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Wait for the PS4 or XBox720.
     
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    Depending on the age of your PC, none of the above. PC gaming is superior IMO. Prefer the TV? HDMI and Wireless Logitech PS3 controller and you're all set.
     
  17. TheRealist137

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    because everyone's PCs are right next to their TV in the living room...
     
  18. juicystream

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    PCs can be moved...
     
  19. Coach AI

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    Live arcade more than covers pretty much every genre base. With their retail titles, old classics, remakes and indie games, Live Arcade and PSN offer many many options for each system. The variety is there no matter which way you go.
     
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    But space can't be gained...
     

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