I guess anything under Yao is now undersized lol. I don't get some people around here, I fail to see the negative of signing Brad Millers if the money is OK(anything under $3 mil a year and no longer than 2 years seems fair). We're a fairly young team, a big veteran won't hurt... hes only going to be a backup and play less than 20 minutes a game, he knows the system, hes played plenty of minutes against all the good bigs in the league... if the money is OK I fail to see how anyone could say hes a bad move? His defense can't be any worse than Andersens!! I swear some of you just expect Morey to land an All Star caliber player with every move he makes.
Still beats David Anderson: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderda03.html And whatever number you can use to quantify how bad Brad Miller's defense is, take that and divide it by two to get Anderson's also.
To all of you who don't see the chamoinship pontential of signing Brad Miller, look at it this way. With a healthy Yao and a backup, a 42-40 season now becomes 62-20.
PER SMER Tyson Chandler has a 11.7 per and Chucky a 12.2. Before last year Miller had 17 per. Plus Yao has a 21 per average... If Yao goes down we are screwed. Wasn't it Morey who said per just scratches the surface. The guy started 37 games last year. He's 34 he cannot play long minutes anymore. His per will definiely be higher this year if we can keep him under 20 minutes maybe under 15. I would have rather traded for Chandler because we need a rim protector more than a shooter. But Miller gives us more size than Hayes and more experience than Hill. What I am really looking for is a defender not a scorer at the back up 5. But beggars can't be choosy and after watching all the bigs getting snatched up and how poorly Hill played in the Summer League. Morey probably went into panic mode and snatched up the best available backup left. And who knows maybe Hill will progress over the season. If not we always some expirings that might be valuable to some team trying to dump a big at the trading deadline. The bottom line is we needed a backup for Yao besides Chucky. I love the guy and he gets so much out his body. But he is just to short to Bynum and gasol. ANd their a few other situations like that the put us on the short side no pun intended. Miller is not what I hoped for I was starting to worry we wouldn't even get him. The guy plays hard always has. I've hated him for his tough play sometimes. he is old but what better place to finish his career and win some championships. The deals done we have 15 guys under contract let's get ready for the season and hope Morey has a few surprises for us during the season.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth. Brad would be great here (for the right amount of $$$). With MIA offering tickets to the Ring chasing express, players like Brad are lucky to get.
There are two theories about Miller: (a) he suddenly aged and was washed up last year, and (b) he was pretty much the same guy but put up lessor stats in a different role. My guess leans towards the latter. One part of his rebouding drop off is likely related to playing next to prolific rebounding Joakim Noah, who averaged 11 rebounds in just 30 mpg. Also, 69% of Miller's shots last season were jumpers, and he had an eFG of 41% on those (as oppose to around 57% on his "inside" shots"). 41% is actually a pretty good for bigs who don't get much of a boost from 3 pt jumpers. Scola and Landry, for example, were at 40% and 39% for their jump shot eFG. Zach Randolph was at 41%. David Lee was at 43%. It was his role to take the Js since Rose is a penetrator and Noah's role was to stay close to the basket (great rebounder, lacking shooting range). He hit the Js at a decent rate, but it does tend to kill your percentages. In any case, I doubt the Rockets are spending that much on Miller. I also doubt there is somebody out there that can be had for whatever they pay Miller that is obviously beter. The team wasn't gonna get an elite big with a portion or even all of the MLE anyway. This is just a complementary move made while the team looks out for opportunities to make a "splash."
others got lebron, bosh, boozer, lee, turkoglu, stoudemire..but dont look now the rockets got a 34 year old back up center....jk ..i hope this isnt the only move if it goes down that the rockets do ...im really high on granger
Fact is, it's either Brad Miller or Jordan Hill at center. I'll take Brad Miller thank you very much.
I was a little bored, so I looked up Miller's stats against some of our division's centers. Hornets: Emeka Okafor Both Miller and Okafor have averaged 30 mpg, and in those minutes, Miller has outscored Okafor by 4 points per game. Miller also manages to hold Okafor to a low shooting percentage while shooting a high percentage himself. Analysis: Rockets advantage, while Okafor does outrebound Miller, Miller shoots a higher percentage and puts up more ppg. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=millebr01&p2=okafoem01 Grizzlies: Marc Gasol In a small portion of games, Gasol has outscored Miller, putting up a higher shooting percentage as well. Miller has managed to outrebound Gasol, but there isn't enough of a sample size to compare. Analysis: Haven't met on enough occasions to see who has the advantage, not I like I actually know anyway. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=millebr01&p2=gasolma01 Spurs: Tim Duncan (I know he's considered a 4 but the Mavs used him at 5 quite a bit) As expected, Duncan dominates Miller putting up 20 ppg, shooting a higher percentage, and outrebounding Miller. Brad wouldn't be playing against him too much fortunately. Analysis: Spurs advantage by a landslide. One of the most dominant players in NBA history should be overpowering guys like Miller. Doesn't mean Miller wouldn't be serviceable though. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=millebr01&p2=duncati01 Mavs: Brendan Haywood While Miller puts up more points per game, Haywood gets the better of him in rebounding and fg%, all while managing Miller to only 45% (not bad but not as good as Haywood's 52%) Analysis: Mavs advantage, but not by much. Haywood outrebounds and shoots a better percentage than Miller, out weighing the fact that Miller puts up more points per game by a tiny bit. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=millebr01&p2=haywobr01 While these stats may mean little to nothing, it's still interesting to see how Miller plays when going up against the same guys he would face most were he to become a Rocket, or at least it is to me. Overall, I think he would be a decent and serviceable backup to Yao. If you want to compare in more details, just click the links below each opponent and see for yourself.
bash him all you want...but he can do this: <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nEgFL2-zOIE&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nEgFL2-zOIE&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> and this: <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WaTyED4GhDg&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WaTyED4GhDg&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> and this <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HarLFp4c6yU&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HarLFp4c6yU&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> and this <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KKDjH5BD3Iw&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KKDjH5BD3Iw&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> Not one of our centers can do all 4, or even 3 of the 4...plus he's got some crazy in him, another quality we need in our big men, i thought we were tired of the niceness??
The trick to getting Brad Miller, is to keep Yao Ming on the court. It really has to nothing to do with Miller's stats so much. We need him to help keep Yao for an entire season. Signing Miller would give us a better chance at doing so.
Well said. The Rockets are mostly a group of men. Even the young guys seem to olderthan their years. As I think about it I'm remided how the experience of the Celtics and the Lakers has beaten up the Younger Orlandos and cavs. I suspect the same will happen to the heat for a couple of years untill those young boys who think they are just to cool grow up. Of course they are amazingly talented and sometimes Mike Tyson comes along and kills the experienced one. But also sometimes the elder fights smarter and they resort to cheating. Maybe lebron will bite off Kobe's ear. I would pay to watch that. Okay I digress.
Let's not start rumors now. It was clear miller was a top target on their list before summer league even started. The fact that the Chandler deal fell apart just made it more likely, not any sort of panic on Morey's part...it is morey afterall, if he was the type to panic we wouldnt have a billion threads asking why morey hasnt done anything yet. Also, care to guess how old dream was when he put up 23 and 9 in a season and we lost in the conference finals? how about the year Malone took the jazz to the finals? how old was he then? Of course these are hall of famers, the best of the best, but my point is 34 is just a number. It really comes down to that individual, not some black evil magic that falls upon every nba baller without fail at the age of 34. Hell, some people here think that magic number is 30. I blame the younger generation of players, who want to stack up their benjamins and get out while they're still "young", but not because they have no more to give on the court. I can't count on one hand the number of players who left lately with gas still left in the tank, but i also cant count the number of players in the previous decade who stayed until their body failed them. Deke is a perfect example, he's old school....so im not ready to give up on Miller because of anything on his birth certificate, there's no max age limit here, just a minimum.
If true, we're making the first steps to alleviating the problems on our team, mainly, height in the middle. I love the idea of BM on our team. It will pay dividends...I promise.
I'd prefer Tyson Chandler, but Brad Miller for the right amount of money and years wouldn't be a bad addition. I like the fact that he's not another nice guy. We have too many of those on this team. He's not afraid to mix it up, talk trash, give a hard foul, and even make the occasional dirty play. You need guys like that on your team.
