RealGM: Denver offers Ginobili 6yr contract starting at 9M

10% and 12.5% are the maximum increases- but contracts do not have to increase by those amounts. They can not be frontloaded though (9 mill one year, 8 mill the next) - contracts must either stay the same or increase in size from year to year, though signing bonuses mixed in can sort of change that payment wise, but those are the rules as far as how they hit the cap.

I could very well see Denver making a contract starting at a higher value and then not escalating as much- that would hit the Spurs, also under the cap, more right now.

I think this market is insane. Nash getting the max without any hesitation, Alston getting 29 mill, Mehmet freaking Okur getting 50 mill, Hedo getting full MLE. I think Richardson's contract is probably the only reasonable one out there.

Ginobili is good, but for 9 mill dollars I want a guy that's at the very least a borderline all-star.

 

Nugs offer just an internet rumor

 

He is worth it...the guy is a rising star.

Ginobli is the shiznitz

DD

 

Excellent! That was an outrageous rumor!

 

Done holding. Next year's FA class is weaker than this year's. Kenyon will be a Nug in the worst case scenario. The Nugs are hot on Barry, but you guys offered him WAY too much, so we're probably out there.

 

The difference is we have Tmac to take the pressure of Yao, Manu was/is their wild card to it (Parker again failed when the heat turned way up). The Spurs have been losing multidimensional players (Drob, Elie, Eilliot, D Anderson, than S Jack, now maybe Manu) and replacing them with offensive (Hedo) or defensive specialists (Bowen).

Like I said they may be cheaper but Q (off with the Suns anyway apparently) and Barry are no replacements for the all around play of Manu.

Besides for the same amount of money 24 over 4, Barry would be better served with us as we have two great options to break the defense down.

The Spurs have to act soon to add another star to the roster that has a shelf life around what Duncan has, because their cap space is gone after Parker is up for FA next year--just adding older or 1 dimensional players for salaries any team can provide (MLE level)until then is not in their best interest. There shelf life to really make use of their cap space is dwindling, they have to make a bang soon. Since Kobe is extremely unlikely given the Lakers have reorganized for Kobe--Manu is probably as close as they can get.

 

if spurs place barry at starting SG. Alot of other SG will have a field day. LOL. Same can be said about pg, but SG will really tourch him.

 

Camby + Manu sucks all the cap room from Nugs, yes? because they were under the cap, no MLE, yes?

 

Camby, despite everyone's overreaction to his contract, will only be $8 mil AT THE MOST this season. Some are speculating as low as $6.5 mil. Manu, at the worst, is $9 mil this season. THat leaves us with $6 left at worst. We started with $23 mil.

Edited because I suck at math

 

So, if those two then one more possible...go Nuggies?

 

The T-Mac blockbuster trade has set the rest of the league in panic mode.

Although bad for Rockets signing Barry, it's nice to see the opponents get their cap eaten up by overpaid players.

 

IMO: Barry signs where Barry wants to sign. He has choices. It's his last contract and he'll want what he can get, but not at expense of wanting to be at the place where he signs. In other words, BB could leave money on the table (maybe not buckets full, but some, anyway).

 

I love reading you guys' views of the Nugs. The board I post on is very Chicken Little right now. Some screaming we've fallen back into the lottery, some saying Kiki's a fool, it's intense right now because we have no idea what we're doing.

The Q-Richardson thing disappoints me. I wanted a Boozer-QRich-Miles off-season. I still hope we go after Boozer, I'd take him over Martin every time. Just not sure about the SG thing because I think SA will match any offer for Ginobili. Possibly Bruce Bowen. Then again, we have 6 first round picks in the next 3 years, so I don't rule out a trade for a Ray Allen.

It's hard for me to freak out right now because there are os many options that haven't been explored.

 

are you serious.... how did that happen and who's picks??

 

Six first round picks for next three years???????? How did Kiki pull that off?

 

Story

I know the Washington pick is from the Jameer Nelson trade, the 76ers pick is from the deal we did with you guys for James Posey. I can't remember the Clippers pick, but I believe we traded something like two second round picks to Orlando for Don Reid and a "future first".

 

PG - Miller
SG - Ginobili
SF - Anthony
PF - Nene
C - Camby

If Anthony continues to develop(likely) and if Nene(hopefully?) realizes his potential, that's a dynamite starting 5. No one will be able to run with them. I think it was the right decision not to overpay Martin. Nene might never be a star, but he'll be very, very good before long. Miller's solid. All you need is for 'Melo to become a (consistently) dominant scorer, IMO, to be a borderline contender. Considering that he's only what, 19, 20? That shouldn't be something you'll have to worry about.

The bench worries me a little bit. Boykins is great, but there are a lot of question marks past that. Will Anderson, Lenard, or J.Barry be back? What's Rodney White's status? Will Skita ever be an NBA player? Can Ryan Bowen play for a contender? Etc., etc...

I like the direction the Nuggets are headed. But then again, I thought the Mutombo, Ellis, Pack, Williamsx2 team would be a contender in a few years too...

 

Holy smoke! Washington, Philly and LAC?? Those are three bad teams out there. You guys can be in the playoffs and still have tons of lottery picks. That must be sweet!

 

Actually, they can be frontloaded. If you recall, last year's crop of Clipper refugees almost all were showered with frontloaded contracts to discourage matching. There is a CBA loophole that allows a team to pay up to 25 percent of the total value of a contract as a signing bonus. That's a pretty hefty figure.

Evan