Reaf Lafrentz, Keon Clark, or even Chris Mihm For Yao Ming?

whoops, sorry It's late, I'm tired, and I just didn't understand what you said Sorry

 

sooooo....you're saying that ming will be the next rik smits...and with that in mind...you would trade ming for lafrentz or keon clark?....................ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kaaaaaaaaay..........

 

LaFrentz? Well just maybe.......


But I would b**** slap Toronto if they offered Keon Clark. I mean the guy would get eaten alive in the Wild Wild West.

Besides he looks like he is one joint away from falling into coma.

 

read what you posted and think it over. what does how much he currently weigh have to do with how much weight he can put on?

 

I wouldnt trade Calvin Murphy's ghetto ass suits for Chris Mihm. I would not take Chris Mihm if he decided to play for free.

I agree totally. And what's with Murphs suits. How about that black one with the big white pinstripes that he always seems to wear with a silver tie every third broadcast. He must have drank too much purple stuff.

 

Extremely ridiculous. The guy who started this thread obviously knows next to nothing about basketball, about gaining weight, probably about everything.

 

see...that should sum up how much you know about basketball if you're going to use Barkley and Smith as your scouting references. i'm pretty sure that neither of them have ever watched ming play in china or even attended his chicago workout. it's just pessimism from players that look down on ming b/c he's not a 6-7 athletic freak that people deem 'the next jordan'

Ming does have some strong legs but a very weak upper body. And he will definitely need the upper body to box out and go strong. I don't see how Ming is almost 300 lbs.

i'm 5'11" and i look like i weigh about 170 but i weigh around 205. how you might ask? heavy bone mass and having a lot of leg muscles. and i'm asian as well. asian people form leg/calf muscles like it's no one's business. how and why? i really don't know. and if you think seeing is believing, then i'm pretty sure you don't believe in God b/c you've never seen him either.


Ming ... was probably lying about his weight or something. Cause he is a stick.

sorry, but Ming is a professional basketball player...not some hollywood actress.

 

Links? Source?

NBA's Director of Scouting Marty Blake said this:

<i>"Yao Ming is the guy. He's obviously the first pick in the draft. Ming is a great talent. He can shoot the ball, pass the ball and he can run the court. He has great legs and he is a guy you can build a team around.

He'll develop better in the NBA because you will have better coaches and play against better players. What he has been able to do by playing in China is not conducive to developing his skills even though he has been able to develop his skills. There is no X-factor about his ability."</i>

This is a guy who's been scouting in the NBA for 40 years.

By the way, reports are that Yao actually is around 305. No one expects him to bang with Shaq, but (and it has been asked before) who exactly CAN bang with Shaq? It's like saying, "Well, when MJ was the best player in the league, no one could guard him." DUH!

When you look at the centers in the league, nevermind the western conference, there aren't but a handful of guys who can legitimately claim to be dominant on a night-in-night-out basis. The majority are role players, also-rans or athletes with no developed skill.

Does that make Yao the next coming of Wilt Chamberlin? Hardly. But, to make an assessment based on the limited video we've seen and totally ignore what the vast majority of basketball minds (i.e. scouts and GM's, not broadcasters and columnists) think on him is to ignore the reality.

Realistically, he'll be a good player. He has a big upside like many players and some issues with size and strength, but his physical tools make him above average coming in. We'll see where he goes from there.

 

Let us correct this misconception right away...Shaq is nowhere near 300 lbs. Reasonable guesses range between 340 and 360 lbs.

Next - he is no stick - he's a tree with weak branches. I'm much happier with Ming starting out with a really strong lower body and weak upper body than the reverse. If he can put on 25 lbs on his upper body over the next 3 years, he will have the perfect physique for his body in the NBA.

 

You'd trade a "Sabonis" for Clark or Lafrentz?

 

The only X-factor in Ming is whether he'll be a good shotblocker. Jerry West said he won't. I've heard other people saying he won't. But it's hard to believe Shawn Bradley is a good shotblocker, but Ming won't be. Ming is smarter, taller, and can probably move his arms quicker because they're shorter than they should be. He still has the wingspan of any other 7'0 shotblocker, but he's 7'6.

I'd love to see Ming put on some PURE muscle. Not mass. Just muscle on his upper body. He can pass, shoot, dunk, block shots, run the floor, and is fundamentally sound. I don't think there's a better player for OUR team.

 

Hey Cipherous I like your spunk, not to many people on this site would have courage to say what you said about trading ming. I agree that if the right deal came around I would take it,but I would'nt trade him for the guy's you mentioned. People say that Ming has potenial,ok I can agree with that but, Shawn Bradley had potential too. I said that to say this until Ming proves it on an NBA court don't proclaim him to be the next big thing, hell some of you guy's are putting him in Chamberlin, Olajawon, Russell and Kareems class already. Let's just call him{Yaohakeem,Mimgolajawon.

 

Ciph:

you just diluted your entire argument by saying he will be an above average center.....that is okay with me. that is all we need for this team is a 15/8 guy at that position who can block and scare people from the lane. also comparing him to Sabonis or Smits is a compliment. I would take either one of these guys over the schleps you named. you are kidding us right?

LaFrentz is actually comparable to Ming, but the difference is Ming shoots 70% and is 5 inches taller. and that is a huge difference between all three you named. do youthink Ming will average more than 11 points and 7 rebounds per game? If so, how can you trade a guy who is at least the same yet 5 inches taller than the guys you named....that makes no sense....these guys get pushed around too and Mihm has yet to show anything.........these are LaFrentz averages right now

 

I would say there are more questions about Ming then just his shot blocking ... To me it isn't given that he is/"will become" a good positional defender or even rebounder ... There are also other issues such as him beeing foul prone etc however I belive it is the defensive aspect of his game that will decide whether he will be considered a good or great center.

 

Is this the same Jerry West who, after delivering that media smoke screen, offered the sun, moon, and stars in order to get his hands on the self-same Yao Ming?

Yao Ming went to that workout in Chicago nervous and exhausted. What the coaches all saw in Ming is tremendous upside; he just needs NBA coaching and game-time.

And the Rockets are gonna be selling a lot of ugly jerseys in Asia.

 

this thread should have been trashed.

 

Uhmmm ... I assume you speculate over a Memphis making an offer for Ming or do you have a source?... as far as I understand Memphis would have choosen Dunleavy or Williams with the number 1 pick ...

 

Jeff, just curious, where did you hear Yao Ming has bulked up from 296 to 305?

I agree with your assesments on Ming! Looking forward to his development!

Chris

 

You can say the same thing about EVERYBODY in this draft. NOBODY has proven ANYTHING in the draft. And quit with the Shawn Bradley comparisons. Bradley hadn't played basketball in 2 years prior to being drafted and WAS NOT quick, and athletic and had an offensive game and like Ming has. The only similarities is that they're both 7-5 or taller. THAT'S IT! Nobody is comparing him to Chamberlin, Hakeem, Russell or Kareem, only you are.