Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Republicans Are Ready To Announce Their 2024 Bids

There isn’t a young Romney out there? I guess a young Romney would be a conservative Democrat or independent in today’s political landscape.

 

He has 24 kids. So yes.

 

Id vote for Jocko Wilink in a second most likely. I don't know his thoughts on many issues. Actually the perfect ticket for me would be Andrew Yang and Jocko ticket. It doesn't make sense and would never happen but I would actually get out on the street and get friends to help get those guys elected.

That ticket would be the opposite of H Clinton/Biden/Trump era. People with actual ideas and not only in it for themselves.

 

If 1 potential candidate is running from jail will it be Trump of Gaetz??

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-matt-gaetz-eyes-presidential-run-in-2024-173710244.html

 

Do any of you still believe that Crenshaw is not a Trumper?

 

The incentive structure is just too high for Trump not to run again and if he does that, I’ll bet anyone now that the GOP will cancel the primary essentially. I’ve seen no evidence that the GOP would allow Liz Cheney or someone a chance to debate him for months on end.

Even if under indictment.... scratch that... especially if under indictment... Trump is running again and will be the certain nominee going against Biden for re-election. And Biden will need to have to hold the House in 2022 in order for the election to be certified in a fair way.

Everyone in the GOP know this and that’s why you have some like Liz Cheney and Paul Ryan speaking out now and not 2 years from now. They know their handlers are going to give him a chance to run unopposed and they know Biden is likely to beat him again, and they know the House GOP along with corrupt state officials will do everything to flip the election to Trump.... and they are speaking out because they know in very short order, 60% of the country will lose it with the GOP’s attempt to overturn Democracy for good.

The Liz Cheney’s of the GOP are concerned about that and believe the majority of Americans and maybe corporate America and maybe our allies will put Trump and the GOP in the history books as a fascist corrupt dictatorship and the party will be rendered dead for generations..... then there is everyone else in the GOP that sees autocracy coming too but thinks that actually sounds like a great time, and thinks the dear leader will make them a prince or something.

What a time to be alive folks.

 

To the contrary, the Republican nomination process/primary is traditionally far more open and suffers from less top-down interference. The primary wouldn't be cancelled from on high, but if Trump announces, it will go from a field of 20~ to a field or like 3-4 rather quickly just because nobody with a high profile is stupid enough to step in front of that buzzsaw.

The House is almost certainly gone in 2022 so that's an underrated storyline for 2024. Democrats will have to over-win to not leave things to chance with that group of chucklenuts.

You are correct that the last 30+ years has basically been a concerted effort to rig elections for Republicans at every single level of government and will erupt in our faces every 4~ years as the electoral college margins get tighter and tighter by design.... but there is absolutely zero certainty that Biden would win again. Biden had a ton of things going for him (or rather, against Trump) in 2020 and he won by like 40,000 votes. That's not even a paper thin margin... that's like a few atoms thin.

 

I would love for Trump to run again that will guarantee high turnout and gains in the house and maybe the Senate.

Liz Cheney will peel away another chunk of the party besides the ones that have already left and you will have Green and Boebert trying to out-crazy Trump.

It will not be as close especially if the economy continues to grow.

 

"President Haley? Cruz? Or Romney?"

https://www.thefacultylounge.org/2021/06/president-haley-cruz-or-romney-.html

June 24, 2021
President Haley? Cruz? Or Romney?

While Donald Trump's influence within his party does not seem to be waning as much as many predicted following his presidential reelection defeat, there slowly seems to be an evolving move within the republican party. Many of the classic Trumpers, like Ted Cruz, who most would agree was initially a reluctant follower but is now "all-in," so to speak, are still playing to the Trumpian base with tactics such as their new boogeyman themes: critical race theory. Another wing of future leadership seems to be taking shape. Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, for instance, will headline the Iowa GOP’s annual Lincoln Dinner in Des Moines on Thursday. Her latest efforts are described as a course correction to appeal the party's conservative base without apparently the backing of Trump. The tactic of attempting to appeal to the right without Trump may be tough, but she too appears to be all-in: “We need to acknowledge he let us down,” she recently observed concerning Trump's post-election behavior. “He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again.” Haley is smart, accomplished, an ethnic minority, and a woman, which should appeal to many in a general election. The question will be if she can establish her legitimacy within the conservative republican base of the party. I am not sure she can, though she would be a fantastic person leading a presidential ticket.

Of course, the expected-ones, like Ted Cruz, will certainly run. Though I find it tough for anyone to follow that man (I am admittedly a progressive--so perhaps I am ill-equipped to judge Senator Cruz-- but really: Ted Cruz???). There will be others: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis appears to already be running with his critical race theory ban in K-12 Florida public schools, where it is NOT taught. Then this week he demands Florida schools teach the evils of socialism and communism--not a difficult sell given world historical accounts. Yet, the obvious nature of failed political systems doesn't matter; what matters is what future voters hear. I would be stunned if DeSantis establishes any serious traction among national voters--then again, I would have lost my house regarding Trump in 2016.

Here are a couple of dark horses in the 2024 race: Senator Tom Cotton--again, as a progressive, not a fan. But the man is extremely talented and would be a formidable conservative choice. And finally, my puncher's chance candidate: Mitt Romney--yes the that Mitt Romney, who was booed and called a traitor at a conservative event in the state he represents. Don't count him out--movie-star good looks, presence, intellect, and stood up against Trump when few had the courage to do so. If my tea-leaves are accurate (never helped me professionally, sadly), as Trump's legal troubles mount, Trump will be alienated, especially after he becomes further unhinged when state investigations heat-up. Final prediction: if Romney is the nominee, he becomes our next president, especially if the economy takes a downturn. Yes, many indicators suggests the economy is ready to race forward, but others are troubling. Time will tell.

What do you think?

Posted by Ediberto Roman at 12:23 PM
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Kamala will be tough to beat. She is great at politics.

 

oh you!

 

lol If she is primaryed she won't win. Reminds me of an actor so bad you can't get into the character they are trying to portray. Kamala is not less honest than many politicians ,but many are much better at projecting sincerity and honesty.

 

*woosh*

 

Poll: Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/600146-poll-trump-leads-biden-harris-in-2024-matchups

excerpt:

Former President Trump is leading President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Monday.

If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided.

Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.

The poll, while very early, portends trouble for Democrats in their 2024 effort to maintain control of the White House after taking it back less than two years ago. Trump has repeatedly hinted that he’s considering another bid for the presidency and remains deeply popular among the GOP’s conservative base.

Even if Trump and Biden choose not to run in 2024, Democrats may face some challenges. The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey found Harris leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a current favorite for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, by a scant 2-point margin.

In that scenario, Harris takes 40 percent support to DeSantis’s 38 percent support.

Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey, said that Trump’s early leads over both Harris and Biden speak less to the former president’s popularity and more to Biden and his administration’s current challenges with voters.
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more at the link

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The polling lately has been just dog sh$t. A poll the other day “found” that 40% of Democrats are wanting Biden to fail. Yeah….

And in this poll am I reading it right that in a head to head Trump is leading Biden, Harris is polling even lower than Biden, but polled voters would prefer Kamala over Ron DeSantis??

I’m not saying that Biden is secretly a lock to win in 24 and historically popular, but I do think the voting base hasn’t changed much since 2018 and 2020. The issue for Dems is getting turnout, and the marginal swing voters who vote on like one random issue.

I know the main issue here with the primaries and special elections are that it’s hard to tell when the hell elections are even happening. I predict that very few Democrats that voted in 20 will not hear about elections at some point between September and Nov. The big issue will be if they feel the stakes are high enough to make a plan to vote and make time out of their busy schedules to make it happen. A lot of that will be motivation due to politics, some will have to do with how well Biden is doing, but most of it will be awareness and motivation to get it done.

Trump was a hell of a motivator. Dems need to be screaming from rooftops that Trump is likely to be speaker and they’ll have the ability to impeach Biden and try to overtake the presidency. That’s a damn good reason to make a plan to go vote on your lunch break instead of waiting in line at Chick Fil A for 45 minutes for the worlds most boring chicken sandwich.